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Even Mussolini’s Libya Policy was on Firmer Ground: Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell?

Kevin DuJan at Hillbuzz.com, a gay, erstwhile pro-Hillary (we’re not sure these days, especially today) blogsite from Chicago, broke this story yesterday, that Libyan Ambassador Chris Stevens was gay, asking the question, why did the State Department post him to Libya?

An Arabist with a long history in North Africa, in all likelihood, Ambassador Stevens asked for the posting, and asked for it aware of the general Arab and Muslim antipathy toward gays (luti).

Still, did he fully know and understand the risks?

Yesterday I posted some observations from Moses Sands about survival awareness by people in general. Moses was speaking about the inability of many English men and women in India during the Great Mutiny of 1857, to deal with the notion that there were people out there who would like to kill them, a condition that isn’t supposed to be a part of their world.

…it did remind them they were in a place they were neither welcome…nor entirely safe….just like the world in general, so it seems. The Indians might rise up again, but spoiled whiny teat fits would not ever kill them again. “We read about the tragedy of some toddler slipping under a fence and drowning in a neighbor’s swimming pool, but no one counts the number of children who die each year just because they were never taught the meaning of danger, or how to respond to it on command.”

Obvious new questions arise as to whether Stevens was a special target in Benghazi on this account alone. We already know the attack had nothing to do with a video in the US.

But likewise obvious questions arise as to whether his superiors, up to and including Hillary (surely Huma had some insights) ever broached the subject with Stevens.

Since gays can openly serve in the military now, I assume the same is true for the foreign service…unless it’s a sure promotion killer. Are gay soldiers in Afghanistan pre-warned there are places outside the gates, on the economy, on pass, a gay man does not go? Where did soldiers in Iraq go to let off steam? As a rule people on the outside know almost all the scuttlebutt of what’s going on inside the compound. Neither a soldier nor embassy staffer can truly just mingle anonymously in that part of the world, a lesson I learned very early in my travels.

These are barbaric tribal societies. I know stories that go back into the 1950s, across the Middle East, from Morocco to Iran, about the airman, sailor or soldier, who, while simply touring the local vendors in the casbah, made a backward glance at a seemingly pretty Arab maiden and was found two days later in the desert, stripped, filleted and castrated, his testicles sewn up in his mouth with his shoe laces.

So it’s not just a gay thing.

Does political correctness simply prohibit superiors from broaching certain subjects in the State Department, or prohibit denying certain assignments due to certain risks?  Can gays sue on the basis of discrimination if denied certain plum assignments, even though they would be targets for murder? I didn’t say cat-calls and harassment. The general Muslim sanction for homosexuality is death.

Are these subjects no one wanted to raise for political correctness sake?

At least in the military they never leave one of their own behind. They have your back, or so we are led to believe.

But does the State Department? Does the Administration? Do gays in the US Embassy in Cairo, or Tunis, or Rabat know they are targets if they simply step outside the compound and step around the corner for a falafel?

Worse, after this week, do they now understand that they are not even safe inside the compound, for clearly the State Department did not have Stevens’ back, ignoring all of even the simplest precautions, from a higher state of alert due to the date, but also due to confirmed intel that something was going to happen that day?

Obama missed the briefing that day, along with several other days, slept through the murder itself, but surely someone in the briefing chain had to have passed the risk assessment forward. And someone on the receiving end at State, in DC or Cairo, nixed it. It wasn’t a simple oversight.

Yes, I think even Mussolini’s policy toward Libya was sounder than the one the Obama Administration had offered the American people. Even Benito would not have sent gay men into harm’s way so cavalierly or negligently.

 

vassarbushmills
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  1. Perhaps so, Vassar, but as much as we mourn the death of a patriot serving his country, as much as we hate broaching the subject of political considerations so soon after the event, Hillary herself felt no qualms about doing so in the presence of the casket yesterday, so here it is: We have been beaten about the head and shoulders with the cudgel of ‘equality’ for the past several years, reaching a crescendo when Obama ascended. They just wanted to serve; they didn’t want to be treated differently. They wanted the same rights as everyone else to “be who they were”. There was no talk of ‘special treatment’, no talk of special consideration in duty assignments, whether in the US Military, the US Foreign Service, the US Department of Agriculture or anyplace else. Perhaps it is a shame that foreign cultures do not…..evolve….as easily as do the Barack Obamas, the Mike Mullens or the Hillary Clintons of the world, and we understand there were plenty of …..traditional…..gays who did not sign on to the ‘openness’ doctrine, but at this juncture, unless the Andrew Sullivans of the world are willing to take on their consciences the consequences of their petulant demands, there is probably no turning back. Paraphrasing the famous 70’s movie “Openness is never having to say you’re sorry.” We do not know if the Stevens family will find any consolation when the useful idiots find a way to blame Bush, or blame Romney, but they will. All we can say is that there were reasons for ‘the way things were’, to paraphrase another 70’s movie.
    But as to your underlying theme, yes, you are absolutely correct, even though you didn’t spell it out: Those US leaders who so easily “evolved’ care no more for the consequences of their evolution than they do the plight of millions and millions of black children with no fathers due to the ease with which these and other leaders institutionalized, glorified and perpetualized the welfare state.

  2. I checked wiki. Stevens was in Damascus, Jerusalem, Cairo and Riyadh so he must have known the risks. It must have been an area of the world he loved and saw as a challenge. I read one article after his death that he loved going out among the people and mingling with them.

  1. Perhaps so, Vassar, but as much as we mourn the death of a patriot serving his country, as much as we hate broaching the subject of political considerations so soon after the event, Hillary herself felt no qualms about doing so in the presence of the casket yesterday, so here it is: We have been beaten about the head and shoulders with the cudgel of ‘equality’ for the past several years, reaching a crescendo when Obama ascended. They just wanted to serve; they didn’t want to be treated differently. They wanted the same rights as everyone else to “be who they were”. There was no talk of ‘special treatment’, no talk of special consideration in duty assignments, whether in the US Military, the US Foreign Service, the US Department of Agriculture or anyplace else. Perhaps it is a shame that foreign cultures do not…..evolve….as easily as do the Barack Obamas, the Mike Mullens or the Hillary Clintons of the world, and we understand there were plenty of …..traditional…..gays who did not sign on to the ‘openness’ doctrine, but at this juncture, unless the Andrew Sullivans of the world are willing to take on their consciences the consequences of their petulant demands, there is probably no turning back. Paraphrasing the famous 70’s movie “Openness is never having to say you’re sorry.” We do not know if the Stevens family will find any consolation when the useful idiots find a way to blame Bush, or blame Romney, but they will. All we can say is that there were reasons for ‘the way things were’, to paraphrase another 70’s movie.
    But as to your underlying theme, yes, you are absolutely correct, even though you didn’t spell it out: Those US leaders who so easily “evolved’ care no more for the consequences of their evolution than they do the plight of millions and millions of black children with no fathers due to the ease with which these and other leaders institutionalized, glorified and perpetualized the welfare state.

  2. I checked wiki. Stevens was in Damascus, Jerusalem, Cairo and Riyadh so he must have known the risks. It must have been an area of the world he loved and saw as a challenge. I read one article after his death that he loved going out among the people and mingling with them.

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