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The “Marxist” Church And One World Government

So the Catholic Church is now calling for “economic justice” just as all the leftists around the world are doing, and what does that give you? It gives you corrupt leaders, who will spend that “community money” as they see fit. How unfortunate for the Church to take that opinion, it of all large groups has seen the nature of man when he has full control over other human beings. I personally have witnessed the greed that money creates in large groups by what Washington DC and the politicians have done to America in the name of “social justice”. I find it disgusting, that a leader of such a large religious group as the Catholic Church could find that Marxism is the ideology they want the world to follow. I don’t know what Jesus would think, I am a mere human as is the Pope and in such do not proffer any thoughts on what he would think about things in the World as they are today. The only thing I know for sure about what Jesus would think about the 21st century is that murdering babies is the pinnacle of misery of the human condition.

I will tell you this, I believe that if you are a conservative and your church starts singing the praises of redistribution of your tax dollars, perhaps it would be time to either, demand the church get out of money changing or leave the church. It is shameful what is being passed down to be preached in the churches across the world. I would suggest the church has indeed lost its way, the people have not lost theirs It Is Not The Church’s Place To Speak Of Stealing One Persons Money To Give To Another

The Vatican called on Monday for the establishment of a “global public authority” and a “central world bank” to rule over financial institutions that have become outdated and often ineffective in dealing fairly with crises. The document from the Vatican’s Justice and Peace department should please the “Occupy Wall Street” demonstrators and similar movements around the world who have protested against the economic downturn.

“Towards Reforming the International Financial and Monetary Systems in the Context of a Global Public Authority,” was at times very specific, calling, for example, for taxation measures on financial transactions. “The economic and financial crisis which the world is going through calls everyone, individuals and peoples, to examine in depth the principles and the cultural and moral values at the basis of social coexistence,” it said.

There appears no need for wars anymore, leaders from the President of the United States to the Pontifical Group, speaking on behalf of the Church are calling for the takeover of countries by a “central authority”. I will say that the Pope isn’t the first religious leader this year to go full on Marxist, that prize goes to Tibets Dalai Lama. It is interesting in these times to watch all of the so called westernized leaders both religious and secular attempt to control the masses via their governments, and we are talking about control here.

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  1. Be careful with “the Vatican” in news reports. Newspapers and other liars like to get their preferred version of reality out there for a couple of days to let it fester, and only after the cries about unfairness become too loud to ignore will they issue their corrections, hidden somewhere the police blotter in amongst the doings of the local garden club. This was not issued by the Pope or his religious deputies. It was issued by a pontifical council, or in other words, someone with about the same religious authority as a hermit with nobody following him.

    Wizbang does a pretty good job of covering the bases on this.

    • I would like to see him come out and say that he and the Church SPECIFICALLY do not believe in this Marxist clap trap, this pontifical group has spoken quite frequently on social justice etc and the Pope has never condemned the group.

    • Hmmm… “Pontifical Council, Pontiff. Cardinal Peter Turkson, Cardinal. I don’t know, Beagle. You go talkin’ Pontiffs and Cardinals you’re pretty high up in the Catholic hierarchy. (I’m not Catholic, but I was married to one once. 🙂 )

      • Exactly my point, if the Pope does not believe in this and I suspect he does, quite like all the Catholic Churches around the Country hiding illegals trying to force us to give amnesty, then he needs to say so, but he won’t!

  2. Jaded, you have a link to the transcript of the Pope’s statement/speech? If so, could you put in reply, story proper (and advise) or email to me? As a Christian, this concerns me but I wouldn’t want to comment until I had read the Pope’s words in total and in context. God bless.

  3. I found the English translation transcript for Vatican “Note” on financial reform from the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, here:

    https://www.news.va/en/news/full-text-note-on-financial-reform-from-the-pontif

    Haven’t read yet but have always found George Weigel to be trustworthy on matters such as this and certainly know that any similarity between this Pope and the Vatican Council with Marxian teaching would be entirely coincidental and from The Church’s standpoint, for a Heavenly motive. More later after reading and praying.

  4. Opps, here is Weigel column, with opening, and what seems a relevant, excerpt:

    Drudge got it wrong: “Vatican Calls for ‘Central World Bank’.” CNBC got it wrong: “The Vatican called on Monday for the establishment of a ‘global public authority’ and a ‘central world bank’.” The best of the Italian Vaticanisti, Sandro Magister of L’espresso, linked Occupy Wall Street and “the Vatican at the Barricades” in the headline of his insta-commentary, a theme also harped upon by the deposed editor of America, Fr. Thomas Reese, S.J.

    All of which was “rubbish, rubbish, rubbish.”

    The truth of the matter is that “the Vatican” — whether that phrase is intended to mean the Pope, the Holy See, the Church’s teaching authority, or the Church’s central structures of governance — called for precisely nothing in this document. The document is a “Note” from a rather small office in the Roman Curia. The document’s specific recommendations do not necessarily reflect the settled views of the senior authorities of the Holy See; indeed, Fr. Federico Lombardi, the press spokesman for the Vatican, was noticeably circumspect in his comments on the document and its weight. As indeed he ought to have been. The document doesn’t speak for the Pope, it doesn’t speak for “the Vatican,” and it doesn’t speak for the Catholic Church.

    READ IT ALL BELOW AND MORE ON THE SUBSTANCE LATER

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/281140/pope-chaplain-ows-rubbish-george-weigel

    • My boss is as as high as you can go in the Church without being a Priest etc., (secular) He says the Church tends to be 50/50 conservative/liberal he also said he would have to hear it from the Pope’s lips, but with the “Church’s” take on illegals in this Country, it is kind of hard for me not to believe they want to commune as one 🙂

  5. Agree with Mike that those of us who don’t know all the nuances of the Vatican organizational chart should be quite skeptical of commentaries from outsiders with a political agenda.
    Which is what seems to be going on here, the world media trying to crowbar the Vatican into appearing to support the various worldwide protests, OWS and others.
    I am sure in due time that the Pope will address the points in this document if needed, but it almost surely is premature for him to speak now as the document almost surely is undergoing review at a lower level of operation per established principles of Vatican governance.
    This is my surmise, but I would defer to those Catholics with a clear understanding of the ecclesiastical structures.

    • I trust Weigel’s take, but beyond that, the mission of the Church, i.e. saving souls, is so much more important than mere politics that I think to label them Marxist based on that vague statement is unwarranted. imho

      • It wouldn’t hurt my feelings to see a refutation of the Marxist accusations from the Church… I can refute them on my own by reading about Jesus and the Moneylenders, but I’d like to hear it from the Church.

  6. Well, tge good thing about us good Protestants is that we don’t forget where we came from. Before we were Protestants, we were Catholics. And before we were Catholics, we were Jews. And before we were Jews, we were heathens. Having now come full circle, we can apreciate the root of our evilness. 🙂

  1. Be careful with “the Vatican” in news reports. Newspapers and other liars like to get their preferred version of reality out there for a couple of days to let it fester, and only after the cries about unfairness become too loud to ignore will they issue their corrections, hidden somewhere the police blotter in amongst the doings of the local garden club. This was not issued by the Pope or his religious deputies. It was issued by a pontifical council, or in other words, someone with about the same religious authority as a hermit with nobody following him.

    Wizbang does a pretty good job of covering the bases on this.

    • I would like to see him come out and say that he and the Church SPECIFICALLY do not believe in this Marxist clap trap, this pontifical group has spoken quite frequently on social justice etc and the Pope has never condemned the group.

    • Hmmm… “Pontifical Council, Pontiff. Cardinal Peter Turkson, Cardinal. I don’t know, Beagle. You go talkin’ Pontiffs and Cardinals you’re pretty high up in the Catholic hierarchy. (I’m not Catholic, but I was married to one once. 🙂 )

      • Exactly my point, if the Pope does not believe in this and I suspect he does, quite like all the Catholic Churches around the Country hiding illegals trying to force us to give amnesty, then he needs to say so, but he won’t!

  2. Jaded, you have a link to the transcript of the Pope’s statement/speech? If so, could you put in reply, story proper (and advise) or email to me? As a Christian, this concerns me but I wouldn’t want to comment until I had read the Pope’s words in total and in context. God bless.

  3. I found the English translation transcript for Vatican “Note” on financial reform from the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, here:

    https://www.news.va/en/news/full-text-note-on-financial-reform-from-the-pontif

    Haven’t read yet but have always found George Weigel to be trustworthy on matters such as this and certainly know that any similarity between this Pope and the Vatican Council with Marxian teaching would be entirely coincidental and from The Church’s standpoint, for a Heavenly motive. More later after reading and praying.

  4. Opps, here is Weigel column, with opening, and what seems a relevant, excerpt:

    Drudge got it wrong: “Vatican Calls for ‘Central World Bank’.” CNBC got it wrong: “The Vatican called on Monday for the establishment of a ‘global public authority’ and a ‘central world bank’.” The best of the Italian Vaticanisti, Sandro Magister of L’espresso, linked Occupy Wall Street and “the Vatican at the Barricades” in the headline of his insta-commentary, a theme also harped upon by the deposed editor of America, Fr. Thomas Reese, S.J.

    All of which was “rubbish, rubbish, rubbish.”

    The truth of the matter is that “the Vatican” — whether that phrase is intended to mean the Pope, the Holy See, the Church’s teaching authority, or the Church’s central structures of governance — called for precisely nothing in this document. The document is a “Note” from a rather small office in the Roman Curia. The document’s specific recommendations do not necessarily reflect the settled views of the senior authorities of the Holy See; indeed, Fr. Federico Lombardi, the press spokesman for the Vatican, was noticeably circumspect in his comments on the document and its weight. As indeed he ought to have been. The document doesn’t speak for the Pope, it doesn’t speak for “the Vatican,” and it doesn’t speak for the Catholic Church.

    READ IT ALL BELOW AND MORE ON THE SUBSTANCE LATER

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/281140/pope-chaplain-ows-rubbish-george-weigel

    • My boss is as as high as you can go in the Church without being a Priest etc., (secular) He says the Church tends to be 50/50 conservative/liberal he also said he would have to hear it from the Pope’s lips, but with the “Church’s” take on illegals in this Country, it is kind of hard for me not to believe they want to commune as one 🙂

  5. Agree with Mike that those of us who don’t know all the nuances of the Vatican organizational chart should be quite skeptical of commentaries from outsiders with a political agenda.
    Which is what seems to be going on here, the world media trying to crowbar the Vatican into appearing to support the various worldwide protests, OWS and others.
    I am sure in due time that the Pope will address the points in this document if needed, but it almost surely is premature for him to speak now as the document almost surely is undergoing review at a lower level of operation per established principles of Vatican governance.
    This is my surmise, but I would defer to those Catholics with a clear understanding of the ecclesiastical structures.

    • I trust Weigel’s take, but beyond that, the mission of the Church, i.e. saving souls, is so much more important than mere politics that I think to label them Marxist based on that vague statement is unwarranted. imho

      • It wouldn’t hurt my feelings to see a refutation of the Marxist accusations from the Church… I can refute them on my own by reading about Jesus and the Moneylenders, but I’d like to hear it from the Church.

  6. Well, tge good thing about us good Protestants is that we don’t forget where we came from. Before we were Protestants, we were Catholics. And before we were Catholics, we were Jews. And before we were Jews, we were heathens. Having now come full circle, we can apreciate the root of our evilness. 🙂

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