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Picking at Scabs on the Ship of Fools

The political killing season gets earlier and earlier, it seems.

So does finding ways to make voters stay home…and I’m not speaking of Democrats here.

Full disclosure

In full disclosure, I’m one week older than Herman Cain. So, I’m old by some accounts. In fact, all the people closely associated with us here at UP share having been around the track a few times. Maturity and experience. It once was considered a valuable thing.

And as that NCAA sports commercial goes, we all turned pro at something other than politics.  Several professions are represented here; law, corporate business, private business, science, medicine, military, yep, even West Point. Still, we have (in my view) as good a team of political analysts and handicappers as can be found on any paid consultancy. Only none of us are on anyone’s payroll. We are all political mendicants. But neither do we have any outstanding debts.

Some of us are also involved in real politics at the grassroots precinct and state level where they do all the dull and boring stuff which the oh-so-smart and oh-so-hip think is too pedestrian for their nimble minds.

We even have have a couple of skill sets we can’t speak about out loud.

There isn’t a real world environment, from farmstead to fisher’s cot, from corner corporate office to a cubicle, we can’t speak about without many years of familiarity.

Finally, politics is not our first language. This also we consider an asset, since true conservative politics is about life and liberty, and not the other way around.

In fact, knowing this simple distinction, what really comes first, you can understand the gap that seems to have crept between the political pundit class and the tea party class, who, if my math is correct, are the only ones who can save America from this dreadful thing called Obama and the socialism he and his party represent.

So, for this day only, I want to wax poetic about experience, wisdom, and adultery (Radar O’Reilly) which 80%, perhaps even more, of the political blogs on the internet, simply don’t have, and maybe causing great harm because of it.

Consider: In the 2006 midterms, when conservatives handed Congress back to the Socialists-with-Mean-Look-in-Eyes (That’s Algonquin for “Democrats”), over 2 million GOP voters stayed home. The national debt as a per cent of GDP began a steep climb rise then, and not two years later. Thanks, guys.

Not to be outdone, and to put an exclamation mark to this tantrum, the nomination of John McCain in 2008 caused the number of stay-at-homes to rise to as many as 5-6 million.

Those  millions who stayed home were largely conservatives with a chip on their shoulder, proving what we old timers have always suspected; that the Left does not have the market cornered on teat-fittery.

Full Discovery II: Since fit-throwing as a generational condition is part of this discussion, I have to note that my generation was the first to employ it on a grand scale. You can find it almost anywhere these days. It’s both cultural and generational. While I know 25-year old Marine sergeants that are more mature and adult than most 50 year olds, Hillary Clinton, at 63, can still pitch a fit that would do Wanda Wilson’s daughter, Lucinda, in the Walmart toy department, proud.

And Hillary also reminds us that, even as Secretary of State, it’s a reputation hard to outrun. Like Naomi Campbell, she’s a lamp-throwing expletive-tosser for life. There’s a lesson here for you kneepants who may tune in.

The Ship of Fools

Did I mention that internet political blogging first began to hit national prominence in 2006? Coincidence? Or that even today, after five years of national prominence, most of it’s key members are still under 40? Or that many of those pundits have a real world resume almost as thin as Barack Obama?

That’s right, all they know is politics or some subset, like law.

The Ship of Fools is a 15th Century allegory that has continuing relevance in our modern world, for that seems to be where the disgruntled seem to take their ball and glove and go when they don’t get their way, turning over the battlefield to their enemies. It also seems to be the home of the snide, the condescending and the mocking.

Sadly, many don’t go out to this ship on their own. Many are led, and these we have to try to rescue.

Only this week, in a private email by a somewhat known internet blogger, “If Romney gets the nomination, I’m outta here. ” Holding himself out to be a leader of sorts, he seemed to be asking others to hop into his rowboat oaring out to the Ship of Fools as well.

Considering the danger an Obama second term poses, our response here at UP would be, “Where you ‘outta here’ to?…er, kid.” (Yeah, he’s about 34.)

Fact: Two million teat-fit throwing “purists”  handed the Congress to the Democrats in 2006, then doubled-down in 2008. I doubt we could have won the White House anyway, it was too historic a moment, but the rest of Congress? They abdicated all, only, not over honor, but rather, a snit.

Now, it’s true, just in the nick of time in 2010 the Ship of Fools emptied out and most came ashore with a roar.

More important than the reemergence of the thumb-sucking wing of conservatism, however, is that they were accompanied by millions more new voters, citizens who had never involved themselves with politics before.

Collectively these new voters have been called “tea parties,” and collectively they also brought onto the political scene a new demographic that did not exist in 2006 0r 2008; that of people of experience and common sense, people who have been around the track…yet lacking in what most would conclude is conventional political savvy by inside-the-beltway standards.

Objects to be shaped, many saw them. For over two years now political professionals have attempted to get their arms around this bunch;  some to mold them into a unified army, others to turn them into a vehicle for their own ambitions. Both natural impulses.

But a lot simply didn’t want to be upstaged by a bunch of mom and pop storekeeps, and saw them as a threat.

No matter,  they turned the political world on its head, for instead of being the object of political movers and shakers, they became the shakers themselves.

Law: Conservatism can be played at several levels but war, only one. These people came to fight and win a battle. Nothing more, nothing less. They did not come to joust. They did no come to jockey for a better position on the next go-round.

The conservative political pundit class has been befuddled as to how to herd these cats, or manage them. Or even predict them. There are no statistics, no analytics, so Karl Rove can’t help. There are no templates to pour over, so RedState, Hot Air and Town Hall also are grasping for new clues. What to do? What to do?

Here at Unified Patriots, we only have one rule here, “Don’t run them off.”

The Ship of Fools, Redux

As I said, the hateful season is starting early, and it does seem the rowboats are beginning to fill up again, headed back out to the Ship. In the name of “vetting” already we are seeing candidates being bashed in a scornful way, as a way to subtly and not so subtly guide people to another candidate, never stopping to consider, that for many or most of these people watching and listening, this is their first trip into the political arena.

Cain, Santorum, Bachmann, Perry, Palin (not in), Christie (not in) collectively have millions of followers who had never “liked” any candidate this far out in front of an election before. And the reason they feel this way is because of one man, Obama, and the sheer sense of doom they know will befall us if that man is given another four years.

Sadly, many of these are looking for a rowboat and oars as we speak, driven in part because of the way their candidate has being (mis)treated, and in part out of disillusionment with some prominent conservatives bloggers and pundits. “I thought we were all in this together?”

Few of us here at UnifiedPatriots share a “favorite” candidate, but we all share a Top 4 or Top 5, Romney included (I think.). None of us can find any profit to this wahr by ushering any voter, by word or deed, back into that rowboat out to the Ship.

To us this is a Cardinal Sin, for we all agree we are in a war for the life of our country, and not just a political tournament where everyone jockeys for a seat closer to the head of the table for the next serving.

Unified Patriot’s site logo says we are about “electing constitutional conservatives.” The purer the better. But we abide by a simple Law, Beasley’s Law,” that:

There are no pure voters,

So, We don’t run off any of them.

Thou shalt not encourage anyone into a rowboat headed back to the Ship of Fools.

But as it’s shaping up, our simple rules  do not seem to be in the playbook of several well-known political blogs, who, for whatever reasons, have decided to try slash and burn politics for their chosen candidates.

Pride Goes Before the Fall

It would be foolish for me to make an appeal to the political blogosphere. After all, they’re mostly kids. But I can suggest how you, an experienced adult, might wade through what they have to say. Rather than too harshly vetting the candidates, we need to start vetting the scab pickers who seem to own the row boat concession out to the Ship of Fools.

Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. (Prov 16:18)

Cases in point: Michelle Malkin and Erick Erickson of RedState.

Michellle Malkin is two weeks younger than my oldest son, while Erick is just a little older than my youngest son. Malkin and my son graduated from college the same year, during Clinton’s first run in ’92, while Erick and my youngest were probably just graduating from high school. And I was just home from the former  USSR where I worked with people on “how to trick the government.”

Malkin was already an established syndicated writer and television personality before she burst onto the blogging scene in 2007. Erickson emerged in 2006 when he molded RedState into a nationally recognized conservative blog site. Both have solid credentials as conservatives.

I’m neither a fan nor antagonist of Ms Malkin. She has a large following and speaks loudly the conservative mantra. But on 16 August she penned a hit piece of sorts on Rick Perry about a 2007 executive order ordering Gardasil into Texas classrooms. In hindsight, it was not Perry’s brightest moment, but as already stated, most of  these candidates have closets full of issues they’d like to undo.

But Malkin’s language and tone clearly was not to edify, but rather to scold and shame voter’s away from Perry. Intentional or unintentional doesn’t  matter. Under no circumstances should anyone vote for this creep, she seemed to be saying. She has unwisely painted herself,  if Perry were to be the nominee, right into that rowboat headed right back out to the Ship. Pride has cancelled out her vote, which is little consequence to me. It’s her tag-alongs I fret over.

Many of you may come away with the notion that Michelle is in the hire for someone else. Who? Romney? The Bush clan? Who knows?  Michelle Malkin is not running candidates into the arms of another candidate, but into that rowboat. And she doesn’t even know this. Pride goeth…

On the other hand, Erick Erickson and RedState seem to have gone all-in for Rick Perry, and therefore fired back at Malkin. (Then all their pals chose up sides.)

I tend to side with RedState on this issue, but only to a point, for it seems RS has abandoned its “let the people decide” position (a very conservative position) of 2010, having already claimed Rick Perry as their champion, and embarked on a subtle (and not too subtle) attack on the other conservative candidates, including Palin, even though she isn’t running, which stirred Mark Levin’s ire. RS has already suggested that all the conservatives should drop out now, before a single vote has been cast, and throw in behind Perry. This could benefit Perry, sure, Erickson maybe, but RedState not one bit, especially should Perry falter.

Full Disclosure III: I do have a history with RedState as some of you may already know. For a little over a year I wrote there. But only as a diarist. Then suddenly one Sunday in February, affectionately referred to here as the Kracken, myself and three others, awoke to find we couldn’t log into RS anymore. Two of them, the famous Beasley (who penned the “Rule” above), were far more senior than I in time-in-service at RedState.

So, you may think, “Well that was awfully ill-mannered.” And it was.  There was no pink slip, no courtesy note saying we were no longer welcome at RS. Not even a “Go to hell.” So you’d be right, it was bad manners, one of those events that goes more to the character of the firer than the firee, especially since, as you all know, I’m a man of impeccable character.

After a couple of days, and being old, and having been around the track a few times, I thought, “Hell, they’re just kids. That’s how kids do things.” And I let it pass. No biggie…

…in part because RS has some very fine adult writers who are in fact professional in things other than blogging. Or mocking strangers. I continue to respect many of them. But behind the curtain is a coterie of kids who apparently were bullied on playground, or had to take piano, so who find in this particular medium a way to get even with all sorts of real and imaginary demons. I’ve called some “back alley bushwhackers” for their penchant for swooping down and attacking some innocent new reader who just dropped in for a cup of coffee; mocking, chiding and generally bullying that person until he/she never came back again. In this they reminded me mostly of Democrats, since, while conservatives like you stand while speaking to you, Dems insist that you kneel.

About Erickson personally, his inability or unwillingness to control his minions in this practice is a thing I also ascribed to youth.  My own 40 year old  is much more able in this department. Still, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

But I gave that notion up four days ago, when Erick penned this about Herman Cain:

Herman Cain is done.

In all honesty, I think if I did not like Herman as much as I do and did not feel some measure of gratitude for him allowing me to take his radio show, I would have objectively cut him off this list before now.

This was Erickson’s kiss-off to the man who had taken him under his wing, and actually set up his current gig as a talk-show host. EE wrote this in such a way as to suggest a superior-subordinate relationship that in truth is reversed, just as politics and the real world are reversed in Erickson’s mind as well, I think. Student-mentor might have been more apropos.

Erick Erickson will have to go at least another 20 years just to learn what Herman Cain has already forgotten…about life, the real world, people, and wisdom…a thing he doesn’t seem yet old enough to seek. He seems to have subordinated conservatism to the sound of his own voice, a common ailment among that age-group.

EE’s comments about Mr Cain were insulting to me (I can’t speak for Herman) for I have to stop and think what sort of knot I’d jerk in my own 38 year old’s ass if he ever spoke how “…were it not for being my father, I’d have quit indulging Dad long ago…”

How condescending and insulting, indeed.

Our bottom line at Unified Patriots

The bottom line is that while espousing conservative issues, both Malkin and RedState, and their several allies, seem to be sending ordinary citizens out of the voting arena to the Ship of Fools at an alarming rate.

I wish I could appeal to those folks, but I can’t.

The mom and pop tea party types represent the salvation of this country but not just because of numbers, but because of a sagacity and a common sense that scares the bejezzus out of the conservative chattering class as much as it does the Left.

You can go to RedState, HotAir/Allahpundit, Malkin, a dozen others, and find all sorts of relevant superior conservative commentary. But just look for the adults. They are not that hard to distinguish. One makes fun of the Left, while the other makes fun of any available target, including you. It’s not hard to know when you are reading a kid in kneepants who is merely trying to write like an adult. They usually give themselves away, often trying to act as if they are stroking their beard when it’s only peachfuzz, as we often think of Captain Kneepants (at RedState), who once wrote a masterful paean to General Electric on the occasion of Ronald Reagan’s 100th birthday, then screeched and threatened people who complained about GE’s current relationship with Obama, or that GE had fired Reagan as its chief spokesman, at the behest of the Kennedys, for being “conservative,” a fact he’d neglected to find out.

We’re for grown ups here at Unified Patriots, but this is not a commercial for our site.

For the sake of God and Country, avoid children acting childishly. Loose Lips Launches Ships…of Fools.

As an illiterate genius named Hodge once told me… about me, “They don’t know nothing” and they wear that nothingness on the tips of their tongue.

 

vassarbushmills
Citizen With Bark On

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  1. Bravo as usual, Vassar, on all points.

    And as far as “full disclosure” I am not even the slight bit embarrassed or ashamed to say I was also one of those “run off” by the Kraken at RedSate without so much as a pink slip.

    But as I always taught my students in Sunday School, many times God works in mysterious ways and it is foolish for us on earth to question His ways. One may not always know or understand the route God takes us, but in this case:

    It’s a far, far better place He has taken me. And that’s here, at Unified Patriots: a place where we can “agree to disagree” without any fear as long as we have respect and honor for the others.

    To those of you who were with me before, during and after the Kraken: Thank you for your trust and unwavering support.

    Humbly:

    LIO

    • Well L.I.O., if it wasn’t for you, I most definitely would not have the title “Blogger” to add after my name on a non-existent business card.

      Ya done good kiddo, real good…… and nobody – NOBODY – can take that from you, not even “a coterie of kids who apparently were bullied on playground, or had to take piano“.

      Note…… Dang it Mr. B., that made me do a perfect ‘Mel Brooksian Spit Take’ of sweet tea all over my laptop.

      Cheers and Reaganhu Akhbar !

      Kenny Solomon
      Israel Survival Updates
      The American Survival Guide

      Oath Keeper
      Patriot Guard Rider

  2. Vassar, would it be a worthwhile exercise for someone who still has posting privileges *elsewhere* to do a write-up about the dangers to all of us if millions of R voters simply stay home and that even if the final candidate is not our “favorite” whomever he/she winds up to be will be far, far better than four more years of that which we currently have?

  3. I still feel great sadness about what happened at RedState. Nothing can be forgotten nor forgiven considering they maligned good and decent people. I thought Erick Erickson was a principled and honest man until it became clear he wanted to deceive the community. As far as the banning of you…well they didn’t like a voice of reason and wisdom popular with the grassroot conservatives. You were a mentor to the community at large. You came along, and for over a year helped many to open their eyes and understand the real battle and what we’re fighting for. You taught us about the Constitution as the source of our conservative principles. You encouraged us to think for ourselves.
    Vassar, while you call it generational, and bad manners, it also goes to character. RS did a dishonest thing, and for those of us who know the truth, it will always remind us of those who have character vs those who don’t.

    There, now, I’ve broken my silence about the Night of the Kracken.

    • Very “K”rack on, Lady P. That whole incident sincerely saddened me.

      I am so glad y’all opened the new place.

      Vasser has done more to help me see the truth around me and help me understand why things haven’t been “adding up” than any other single writer I read, or commentator I listen to.

      But that in no way infers that all of the rest of the writers here and some remaining with RS are not outstanding, including yourself Lady Penquin.

      I really appreciate the dedication of you all.

      • Thank you, YLovell. I believe this is the first time Vassar broke his silence on the doings at RS, and it certainly was mine. I remember when Vassar first showed up at RS, and he quickly picked up a following because he not only spoke to the grassroots, but he made sense. Over time, there is no doubt in my mind that RedState saw him as a “threat” because he challenged people to be more than just sheep. IMHO, RS took the steps they did to clear potential obstacles (voices) that might get in the way of their chosen candidate and agenda. Going from opinion shaper to kingmaker changes the stakes of the political game, but to the grassroots conservative it is always about principles first and foremost.

        We are fortunate that so many good writers, and good people are here at UP. There are certainly a few FP folks at RS that I miss, as well as those readers left in the RS community who may not know where we are. But at least here we have adult behavior, and acceptance, and we attempt to do what is right.

        • Yes Lady P, I agree with your assement about Mr. Bushmills potential for dissent.

          With recent developments, I am sure that the attitude change from opinion maker to kingmaker is the new status quo.

          The conceit and the deceit are unmistakable. Heady stuff, for sure.

          The quote, “If you stare into the Abyss long enough the Abyss stares back at you.” does not really fit here. I think the expression “She’s no better than she ought to be” fits the situation much better.

        • It took me weeks to piece together an (imperfect) version of the night of the Kracken; and I eventually came to the same conclusion that you stated above: that Vasser, you, and the others were perceived as threats to the RS establishment and message. In the end, they did nothing less than toss you all out for not toeing to the RS party line.

          They would have done themselves a better service if they had just said so in the first place, rather than attempting the cover up… The cover up is always worse than what is being covered up…

          In the end, I think it was better that this site rose out of the ashes, so to speak, than continuing to paddle upstream on RS…

    • Remember the old law, LadyP:

      Never get mad at dogs for being dogs.
      Concentrate on the things you can change.

      Our purpose here was to remind people that they (a lot of blogs, not just one) really have very little to offer this war, for they are not in it to defeat the enemy.

  4. When the Kraken at RedSate struck I was very new to politics and blogging, but I noticed immediately that the quality of discourse dropped there the very next day. The ‘best’ of what was left were those very bloggers who ridiculed me when I asked about some topic.
    After the Kraken I sent them a farewell email that can be summed up as “G’Bye”

  5. Green eyed monsters are difficult to deal with no matter the age, but the most sorrowful are those terrible-tantrum-two-year-olds hidden in grown adult bodies. They are the worst.

    Those lacking in a comprehensive education or adequate life experiences tend to stick to what they feel makes them important or gives them the illusion of power over peoples lives.

    Corruption should only be found in the flesh of the dead, not in the living and especially not in those in any position of power.

    What many seem to have forgotten in history, that the mendicants and the fools were conduits of information in the medieval world. They were the early warning system of kingdoms going south, potential wars in the offing or invasions being plotted.

    Being a fool boarding a leaky ship is one thing, being the person passing out the boarding passes for the leaky ship, well they need to be introduced to the fine art of keel dancing.

    I know that no one running for office can pass any or all purity tests. The allowable and/or acceptable flaws or transgressions in a potential leader must be considered. Also to be considered is who will follow the law and keep the citizens from getting totally screwed over. To be honest, I want a practical person with a no nonsense approach to implementing the clean-up of this nation.

    Vassar- if there is ever a chance to meet up with you and the others here at UP, it would be an honor to break bread with you all. (as long as the weather isn’t unbearably hot)

    Enough rambling for now.

  6. I was over there lurking.I had been there long enough to recognize the big dogs, the gifted writers, a few comdedic artists, and the Egos which must not be crossed. Sort of like an old western where you’re new in town and sitting at a table parching your thirst, minding your own business when suddenly …blam..one helluva barfight broke out. The gunfire and broken chairs started bgetting pretty indiscriminate to me, it seemed. I ducked out. Found another place up the street where serving the customer seemed the motto. Later I wandered back just to see how they first place looked. They were having another barfight! Not as big as the first, but sheesh! It seemed like to me these people dont really want to socialize, they just like to fight. Maybe some day I’ll understand what happened at Dodge City on the Internet earlier this year. (?)

    • Apt analogy!

      I, too, had been a lurker on RS for quite awhile (pushing 4 years). I had noticed that the quality and tone of discourse had changed significantly in the last year or so, but I stuck around, for the most part. Then came the mystery and mayhem of the Kracken and the aftermath, and that pushed me out to search for other sites to keep up with. I visit there rarely anymore, and have only logged in once since March (I couldn’t resist commenting on one article).

      I am happy to say that I am glad to have found this site, and can see a lot of familiar “faces” again, in a more civil environment. I am just sad it took me several months to find this place….

  7. Vasser, This is a classic dispatch that should probably be brought down off the shelf and be re-read often over the course of this election cycle.

    I plan to add to favorites and re-post on my FB site periodically. Perhaps, you could do the same with it here from time to time, lest we forget.

    Thanks for being a beacon (I always crave bacon when I see that word) that shines a light on our path.

  8. So many thoughts. First, it’s hard to take the long view if you’re short on maturity. So slack is cut. Still , respect begets respect. Also, if Perry wins and RS gets a bump because he launched there, that’s fine. But some things remain seared in the memory. I was among those temporarily banned, later to be let back in( for no purpose , as I no longer have anything to contribute there) because, I suppose, I wasn’t a player in the grand scheme of things, just a nobody commenter who had the temerity to ask what was going on and for the savagers, especially the prime savager, to explain his position. I had no clue as to the backstory, and the cover stories and sob stories they used to rationalize what was going on didn’t justify the viciousness. I didn’t give a peck about being called an idiot , but when a director emeritus of the org called a productive, committed, hard-working Lady contributor and grassroots conservative activist an “insane autoerotic birther”, and his microphone was not shut off, and no apology was issued, it inspired me to challenge the logic and wisdom behind that tack, which managers and teachers pets didn’t appreciate, and it told me some things. I don’t begrudge anybody their fame, fortune or brand protection, their ‘my way or the highway’ when they’re paying the light bill. But nothing justifies that kind of behavior toward a comrade-in-arms in public on the part of people who profess to call themselves conservatives, indeed often call themselves ‘social conservatives’, indeed often profess to be humble servants of God.
    Anyway, I remember now the tagline of an old Negro preacher and story-teller who used to write letters-to-the-editor in our local papers years, and years, and years ago. He always signed off “I am here, and I am glad.” Thank you, Mr. Bushmills.

    • It’s what they do, Bob. You should never get mad at dogs for being dogs.

      Our purpose here was to remind people that they (a lot of blogs, not just one) really have very little to offer this war, for they are not in it to defeat the enemy.

  9. Your prose sings, VB…as usual.

    It’s not that we’re that much smarter, it’s that we’re mostly a bunch of old coots…which puts us in the “good things come with experience and experience comes from bad things” crowd.

    I’m certainly not a Romney/Huntsman/Gingrich fan but if they manage to win the nomination, I’ll work hard for them simply because the alternative is patently unacceptable.

    As one of those you described as being in ‘precinct politics’ I am amazed and stunned at the size of the egos and the thirst for power among some of those we dub ‘conservatives’. I’ve lost track of the number of times I’ve had to fight the urge to look at one of my peeps and say “our country’s sailing off into oblivion and your shorts are in a bunch over that?

    I’m not quite old enough to have heard this first-hand but I do believe that the words of old Ben still ring true today, over 230 years since he uttered them: “Gentlemen, we had best all hang together, or we most assuredly all hang separately.”

    Wise words to remember for the next 15 months.

    • eburke. Your posts at RS were always something I would open and read. I beleive you are a good person and honorable. I don’t think it should ever be held against you if you went ahead and said “our country’s sailing off into oblivion and your shorts are in a bunch over that?”. As a matter of fact, I expect that is exactly what you need to do.

      Respectfully submitted,
      Ylovell 🙂

      • Thank you for the kind words,Y. It’s always a humbling honor to know that folks find my meager offerings worthy of reading so thanks for saying so.

        Personally, as I look around at some of the talent that my fellow editors possess, I’m just glad they still allow my password to log-on to the site 🙂

  10. Hi.

    Mr. B., as always, reading each and every one of your missives is more than a treat to these eyes.

    I can honestly envision you verbally delivering a diary column such as this to a coterie of kids who apparently were bullied on playground, or had to take piano Politics 101 class held at rapt attention by your every word, awaiting the next, as their skulls full of mush would be cleansed by reason and logic, as opposed to being routed by The Blam Stick the inane “gotcha” posting.

    OK, I’ll stop right there while I’m behind. 😉

    Oh yeah…… Just in case anyone cares, I didn’t get “Krakened”, I simply left as a way of showing my support to you, Lady Impact Ohio and several others who got what “The U” down here is about to get – and I did so without saying as much as an in-public “Pffffft” to the powers that be at “Ban Central Station”.

    Just wanted to get that out in the open.

    The only problem I ever had with anyone at “Ban Central Station” (besides the obvious daily Trollskies) was with one moderator who once – just once – told me to “quit it with the Muslims”.

    I replied that I’d “quit it with the Muslims” when they “quit it” with trying to kill every Jew (and all the other ‘infidels’) on the planet.

    Never heard another word about it.

    Now, I get all sorts of ‘edgy’ on my own site and have the title of “Political Analyst” at another.

    I even got poked, prodded and cajoled into becoming one of those Twits…… Thanks again L.I.O. !

    Cheers !

    Kenny Solomon
    Israel Survival Updates
    The American Survival Guide

    Oath Keeper
    Patriot Guard Rider

    — — — —

    Not only have I been dubbed a Hobbit, I’m also considered a terrorist.

    OK, no problem……. “Reaganhu Akhbar !”

  11. If we ever start a Hall Of Fame page here for the best dispatches I nominate this’un for the first entry!

    RedState was the first blog I ever signed up for, though I had read many of them, including Hot Air. What made me decide to join that particular one was the sense of community that it had back in the early part of ’09. I quickly found some kindred spirits there, even among the mods, and enjoyed many discussions that were informative and helped lay out the direction I wanted to pursue in getting involved with politics.

    But something began to change in late ’10. You can look back over VB’s dispatch here to find out what that was. It was one thing for a regular member to declare “My candidate or no one!” but when the FP contribs began the same thing I was afraid the wheels were about to come off. Then came the GE post and I became aware EE was letting one or two of those contributors run roughshod over the rest of us. The Kraken left no doubt. One of us here attempted to set the record straight with a highly recommended post that lasted about a day before the comments were closed. It lasted at the top of the reco chart for well over a week after that, picking up a few more recommendations even after the comments were closed.

    EE posted later that he hoped the opportunity he so generously gave us to let off a little steam after the Kraken was “cathartic”, perhaps the most condescending comment toward the community I’ve ever seen him make.

    I guess rather than have a diverse community made up of tea partiers, Reagan conservatives, Goldwater conservatives, even the occasional, reasonable liberal (yes, there are still a few of those, though the numbers are dwindling rapidly) they would rather be the kingmakers or breakers, as the case may be. The former group can work together to help elect constitutional conservatives to office, despite our differences, the latter tend to morph into one-note wonders that quickly flame out.

    When you have a strong-knit community and then run a bulldozer through it, or let surrogates do so while your back is pointedly turned, you’ve got bigger problems than an ego that is out of control.

    No would-be kingmaker with an attitude like that toward a community of readers he helped build is worth my time anymore.

  12. Vassar, you and some of the rest of us old coots tried to be as Ben Franklin was to those men of Massachusetts. They just are not of the character of that young John Adams. Maybe with time and age they will get what they are incapable of getting now.

  13. It’s hard to be a kingmaker when you keep firing your followers.
    EE got in front the pack for a while and it was no doubt sweet.
    When the pack wasn’t following closely enough for his taste he didn’t realize the pack wasn’t ever really following him.
    Thus, his “get your a$$ in line” response.
    It’s actually getting to be pretty common among people who have forgotten which way is up.

  14. “We’re for grown ups here at Unified Patriots”

    That about sums it all up nicely. Bomb-throwers & name-callers need not apply; enormous egos likewise. Directives to ‘go here and contribute to this one’ are not needed because we’re grown ups here @ Unified Patriots. As a bonus, no annoying pop-up ads! Ka-ching!

  15. I was over there when the Kraken struck. Starting some time in 2009 I used to begin every day with coffee and RS. I was simply stunned when all of a sudden all of you were just gone. If I remember the lame excuse du jour it had something to do with the whiners complaining about how their diaries never got recommended and thus dropped off before more people could read them. Way to go, EE, bounce your absolutely best Diarists and posters in favor of the whiners. Needless to say, the quality of the writings dropped both noticeably and instantly.
    With my a.m. coffee I would read all your diaries and insightful comments, but I confess I started with Vassar’s. VB, your writings demonstrate an ability for calm logic, which is a quality in which I am sorely lacking. I have what can be described as a highly reactive personality and thus the ability to dive into the verbal sewers in the blink of an eye (perhaps in a previous life I was a Democrat).
    So I thank you VB for guiding my thought process in a way it might not have traveled on its own.
    And I thank all here for all you do and for being welcoming to those of us who are relatively new to the political arena.
    I’m glad you are all here and I am equally glad I was able to find you.

  16. My first foray into this public type of venue was on another, now defunct site for a certain presidential candidate back in 2007 or so. A certain Senator from TN. Most of the people there were ones I felt a certain kinship with and desire to make things right. With that passing into the mist of things not to be, my wanderings led me to that “other site” where lo and behold the same people were congregating.

    OK, you might be wondering how this ties in with VB’s prose? A certain member at that other site, while thought provoking in his own right, was flamed. I don’t remember if it was intentional or by “chance”. Doesn’t matter.

    The part I took away was: why are we fighting each other? It’s those guys on the other side of the aisle who should get the attention.

    Prior to the event known as the Kraken some of the other posters were writing thoughtful and insightful dispatches, which helped me to expand on some concepts that always felt nature to me.

    Some have made me laugh (and yes, almost spray tea on the ‘puter) and others have really made me think.

    Herein lies one response to how we might get through this. Maintain a sense of humor while we think of ways to slay the dragon. And… hopefully get the point across the emperor is truly naked.

    VB, if you do go through with the cookout I know at least one Hoosier that will be glad to help, god willing.

  17. I had to go out of state for funeral, got back late yesterday afternoon, read this post, started to respond, then decided that I wanted a night to sleep on it before saying anything.

    There’s a lot that I could say about the Kraken situation but won’t.

    What I will say instead is that there are some very interesting trends beginning to unfold in various areas of our country. Take the situation in Weiner’s district as an example. There are life-long Dems and left-leaning Independents who are walking into the election office of the Repub candidate and voluntarily submitting the information that “Obama is a moron”. They are concerned about the excessive spending that has occurred under this administration and across our government as a whole. Lying under the surface of this response is a growing sentiment that if liberalism=excessive spending and dangerous levels of national debt, then they will reject this liberal position.

    For people who are politically-oriented, this might seem like a “trivial many” type of trend influence in the face of the vetting of conservative candidates. For someone like myself who focuses more on broad societal influences, this falls into the category of the “significant few”…it’s like observing a door of opportunity opening for conservatives that could be very advantageous to our side of this battle if we can keep our mind’s open and focus on presenting why conservatism is the best option we have for turning our nation around.

    My tolerance level for the gutting of our allies that has been going on amongst conservatives lately is below zero. We’re fighting against time more than anything else. I don’t understand the rationale behind wasting what time we do have when it could be put to good use by focusing on providing the general public with a defense of conservative principles and hopefully encouraging them to join us in this battle for our nation’s future.

    I’m fighting a bout of health-related fatigue that’s kicking my butt right now, guys, and I’m in a really foul frame of mind. I’ve tried to keep this as positive and optimistic as possible, all things considered.

    • I’m going to present another example of this phenomenon…education. Our education system isn’t even remotely successful in providing our children with a level of education on the basic fundamentals that would allow them to succeed in life as individuals AND that would allow our nation to have the strength to compete internationally in regards to trade. The more liberal elements of Democrats aren’t going to touch this issue with a ten-foot pole because of their alliances with Teacher’s Unions and their never-ending usage of the race issue. In some cases, such as the situation in NY that involves Harlem Success charter schools, traditional Dem/Liberal orgs are not only alienating themselves from their own base by presenting NO viable options that would resolve the education issue but also becoming an obstacle that stands in the way for these communities to have an opportunity to grow beyond the limitations that it has faced in the past.
      This leaves the door wide open for conservatives to discuss and quite possibly present other options that might encourage some of these voters to at least consider the conservative platform as a viable alternative.

      • There is some really good stuff here. Instead of the caterwauling the lib’s do with scare tactics and name calling, it would be so much more effective for candidates and talking heads on our side of the pasture to teach by example.

        To do otherwise only presents a flip side of the same coin and doesn’t really differentiate the candidates. It’s a heads or tails situation.

        However, if there were an alternative choice not cut from the same cloth and not using the opposite arguments, that sets that argument onto a different plane. It’s no longer heads or tails… That to me is what Pres. Reagan did.

        I still believe most people have a kernel of being conservative in them, but the noise created by the cat fights never really allows sufficient stillness for contemplation.

  18. Line, thank you for all you contribute to the site. Today as always you provide truth and common sense. I think you are looking to the positive with your doors opening analogy. As we destroy the myth and plague of liberalism we must work for the positive renewal of America as it traditionally existed.

    • RH, I’m just someone who posts at this site. It isn’t my responsibility to define for anyone else what approach this site or any other site takes. However, if we look at the situation objectively, a lot of other conservative sites are engaging in some vicious blood-letting against those in their own ranks, so to speak.
      UP is different from a lot of other websites. It is possible that this site could choose to forge a path of it’s own by taking on the challenge of focusing on why conservatism is our best option, first and foremost. If that is the choice that is made, then this site has the potential to become the proverbial “voice in the wilderness”.

      That voice is badly needed right now, RH.

  19. VB, thanks for this. When I was an ignorant coward Dem, I was a party man. Since my 2000 conversion to conservatism and the GOP, I am a party man. We get government policies and laws changed in America thru parties. I will support the GOP nominee and Romney actually looks better to me now than he did back in 2008 when I backed him until Fred came in too late. I also bemoan the treatment of Cain at RS.

  20. Things are heating up big-time.

    Jamie Radtke Demands Apology from RedState’s Erick Erickson For Drunk Attacks.

    That link is to Jim Hoft’s Gateway Pundit.

    My comment at the page is #3 and I linked Jim to this column.

    Me thinkest a war hath begun and I’ve got plenty of sweet tea, a brand new lawn chair, an over-abundance of popcorn and some really great prescription sunglasses.

    We’d better get it together as conservatives/patriots or we’ll see those non-existent FEMA Camps open their doors and the cattle cars start rolling in.

    Kenny Solomon
    Israel Survival Updates
    The American Survival Guide

    Oath Keeper
    Patriot Guard Rider

    Reaganhu Akhbar !

  1. Bravo as usual, Vassar, on all points.

    And as far as “full disclosure” I am not even the slight bit embarrassed or ashamed to say I was also one of those “run off” by the Kraken at RedSate without so much as a pink slip.

    But as I always taught my students in Sunday School, many times God works in mysterious ways and it is foolish for us on earth to question His ways. One may not always know or understand the route God takes us, but in this case:

    It’s a far, far better place He has taken me. And that’s here, at Unified Patriots: a place where we can “agree to disagree” without any fear as long as we have respect and honor for the others.

    To those of you who were with me before, during and after the Kraken: Thank you for your trust and unwavering support.

    Humbly:

    LIO

    • Well L.I.O., if it wasn’t for you, I most definitely would not have the title “Blogger” to add after my name on a non-existent business card.

      Ya done good kiddo, real good…… and nobody – NOBODY – can take that from you, not even “a coterie of kids who apparently were bullied on playground, or had to take piano“.

      Note…… Dang it Mr. B., that made me do a perfect ‘Mel Brooksian Spit Take’ of sweet tea all over my laptop.

      Cheers and Reaganhu Akhbar !

      Kenny Solomon
      Israel Survival Updates
      The American Survival Guide

      Oath Keeper
      Patriot Guard Rider

  2. Vassar, would it be a worthwhile exercise for someone who still has posting privileges *elsewhere* to do a write-up about the dangers to all of us if millions of R voters simply stay home and that even if the final candidate is not our “favorite” whomever he/she winds up to be will be far, far better than four more years of that which we currently have?

  3. I still feel great sadness about what happened at RedState. Nothing can be forgotten nor forgiven considering they maligned good and decent people. I thought Erick Erickson was a principled and honest man until it became clear he wanted to deceive the community. As far as the banning of you…well they didn’t like a voice of reason and wisdom popular with the grassroot conservatives. You were a mentor to the community at large. You came along, and for over a year helped many to open their eyes and understand the real battle and what we’re fighting for. You taught us about the Constitution as the source of our conservative principles. You encouraged us to think for ourselves.
    Vassar, while you call it generational, and bad manners, it also goes to character. RS did a dishonest thing, and for those of us who know the truth, it will always remind us of those who have character vs those who don’t.

    There, now, I’ve broken my silence about the Night of the Kracken.

    • Very “K”rack on, Lady P. That whole incident sincerely saddened me.

      I am so glad y’all opened the new place.

      Vasser has done more to help me see the truth around me and help me understand why things haven’t been “adding up” than any other single writer I read, or commentator I listen to.

      But that in no way infers that all of the rest of the writers here and some remaining with RS are not outstanding, including yourself Lady Penquin.

      I really appreciate the dedication of you all.

      • Thank you, YLovell. I believe this is the first time Vassar broke his silence on the doings at RS, and it certainly was mine. I remember when Vassar first showed up at RS, and he quickly picked up a following because he not only spoke to the grassroots, but he made sense. Over time, there is no doubt in my mind that RedState saw him as a “threat” because he challenged people to be more than just sheep. IMHO, RS took the steps they did to clear potential obstacles (voices) that might get in the way of their chosen candidate and agenda. Going from opinion shaper to kingmaker changes the stakes of the political game, but to the grassroots conservative it is always about principles first and foremost.

        We are fortunate that so many good writers, and good people are here at UP. There are certainly a few FP folks at RS that I miss, as well as those readers left in the RS community who may not know where we are. But at least here we have adult behavior, and acceptance, and we attempt to do what is right.

        • Yes Lady P, I agree with your assement about Mr. Bushmills potential for dissent.

          With recent developments, I am sure that the attitude change from opinion maker to kingmaker is the new status quo.

          The conceit and the deceit are unmistakable. Heady stuff, for sure.

          The quote, “If you stare into the Abyss long enough the Abyss stares back at you.” does not really fit here. I think the expression “She’s no better than she ought to be” fits the situation much better.

        • It took me weeks to piece together an (imperfect) version of the night of the Kracken; and I eventually came to the same conclusion that you stated above: that Vasser, you, and the others were perceived as threats to the RS establishment and message. In the end, they did nothing less than toss you all out for not toeing to the RS party line.

          They would have done themselves a better service if they had just said so in the first place, rather than attempting the cover up… The cover up is always worse than what is being covered up…

          In the end, I think it was better that this site rose out of the ashes, so to speak, than continuing to paddle upstream on RS…

    • Remember the old law, LadyP:

      Never get mad at dogs for being dogs.
      Concentrate on the things you can change.

      Our purpose here was to remind people that they (a lot of blogs, not just one) really have very little to offer this war, for they are not in it to defeat the enemy.

  4. When the Kraken at RedSate struck I was very new to politics and blogging, but I noticed immediately that the quality of discourse dropped there the very next day. The ‘best’ of what was left were those very bloggers who ridiculed me when I asked about some topic.
    After the Kraken I sent them a farewell email that can be summed up as “G’Bye”

  5. Green eyed monsters are difficult to deal with no matter the age, but the most sorrowful are those terrible-tantrum-two-year-olds hidden in grown adult bodies. They are the worst.

    Those lacking in a comprehensive education or adequate life experiences tend to stick to what they feel makes them important or gives them the illusion of power over peoples lives.

    Corruption should only be found in the flesh of the dead, not in the living and especially not in those in any position of power.

    What many seem to have forgotten in history, that the mendicants and the fools were conduits of information in the medieval world. They were the early warning system of kingdoms going south, potential wars in the offing or invasions being plotted.

    Being a fool boarding a leaky ship is one thing, being the person passing out the boarding passes for the leaky ship, well they need to be introduced to the fine art of keel dancing.

    I know that no one running for office can pass any or all purity tests. The allowable and/or acceptable flaws or transgressions in a potential leader must be considered. Also to be considered is who will follow the law and keep the citizens from getting totally screwed over. To be honest, I want a practical person with a no nonsense approach to implementing the clean-up of this nation.

    Vassar- if there is ever a chance to meet up with you and the others here at UP, it would be an honor to break bread with you all. (as long as the weather isn’t unbearably hot)

    Enough rambling for now.

  6. I was over there lurking.I had been there long enough to recognize the big dogs, the gifted writers, a few comdedic artists, and the Egos which must not be crossed. Sort of like an old western where you’re new in town and sitting at a table parching your thirst, minding your own business when suddenly …blam..one helluva barfight broke out. The gunfire and broken chairs started bgetting pretty indiscriminate to me, it seemed. I ducked out. Found another place up the street where serving the customer seemed the motto. Later I wandered back just to see how they first place looked. They were having another barfight! Not as big as the first, but sheesh! It seemed like to me these people dont really want to socialize, they just like to fight. Maybe some day I’ll understand what happened at Dodge City on the Internet earlier this year. (?)

    • Apt analogy!

      I, too, had been a lurker on RS for quite awhile (pushing 4 years). I had noticed that the quality and tone of discourse had changed significantly in the last year or so, but I stuck around, for the most part. Then came the mystery and mayhem of the Kracken and the aftermath, and that pushed me out to search for other sites to keep up with. I visit there rarely anymore, and have only logged in once since March (I couldn’t resist commenting on one article).

      I am happy to say that I am glad to have found this site, and can see a lot of familiar “faces” again, in a more civil environment. I am just sad it took me several months to find this place….

  7. Vasser, This is a classic dispatch that should probably be brought down off the shelf and be re-read often over the course of this election cycle.

    I plan to add to favorites and re-post on my FB site periodically. Perhaps, you could do the same with it here from time to time, lest we forget.

    Thanks for being a beacon (I always crave bacon when I see that word) that shines a light on our path.

  8. So many thoughts. First, it’s hard to take the long view if you’re short on maturity. So slack is cut. Still , respect begets respect. Also, if Perry wins and RS gets a bump because he launched there, that’s fine. But some things remain seared in the memory. I was among those temporarily banned, later to be let back in( for no purpose , as I no longer have anything to contribute there) because, I suppose, I wasn’t a player in the grand scheme of things, just a nobody commenter who had the temerity to ask what was going on and for the savagers, especially the prime savager, to explain his position. I had no clue as to the backstory, and the cover stories and sob stories they used to rationalize what was going on didn’t justify the viciousness. I didn’t give a peck about being called an idiot , but when a director emeritus of the org called a productive, committed, hard-working Lady contributor and grassroots conservative activist an “insane autoerotic birther”, and his microphone was not shut off, and no apology was issued, it inspired me to challenge the logic and wisdom behind that tack, which managers and teachers pets didn’t appreciate, and it told me some things. I don’t begrudge anybody their fame, fortune or brand protection, their ‘my way or the highway’ when they’re paying the light bill. But nothing justifies that kind of behavior toward a comrade-in-arms in public on the part of people who profess to call themselves conservatives, indeed often call themselves ‘social conservatives’, indeed often profess to be humble servants of God.
    Anyway, I remember now the tagline of an old Negro preacher and story-teller who used to write letters-to-the-editor in our local papers years, and years, and years ago. He always signed off “I am here, and I am glad.” Thank you, Mr. Bushmills.

    • It’s what they do, Bob. You should never get mad at dogs for being dogs.

      Our purpose here was to remind people that they (a lot of blogs, not just one) really have very little to offer this war, for they are not in it to defeat the enemy.

  9. Your prose sings, VB…as usual.

    It’s not that we’re that much smarter, it’s that we’re mostly a bunch of old coots…which puts us in the “good things come with experience and experience comes from bad things” crowd.

    I’m certainly not a Romney/Huntsman/Gingrich fan but if they manage to win the nomination, I’ll work hard for them simply because the alternative is patently unacceptable.

    As one of those you described as being in ‘precinct politics’ I am amazed and stunned at the size of the egos and the thirst for power among some of those we dub ‘conservatives’. I’ve lost track of the number of times I’ve had to fight the urge to look at one of my peeps and say “our country’s sailing off into oblivion and your shorts are in a bunch over that?

    I’m not quite old enough to have heard this first-hand but I do believe that the words of old Ben still ring true today, over 230 years since he uttered them: “Gentlemen, we had best all hang together, or we most assuredly all hang separately.”

    Wise words to remember for the next 15 months.

    • eburke. Your posts at RS were always something I would open and read. I beleive you are a good person and honorable. I don’t think it should ever be held against you if you went ahead and said “our country’s sailing off into oblivion and your shorts are in a bunch over that?”. As a matter of fact, I expect that is exactly what you need to do.

      Respectfully submitted,
      Ylovell 🙂

      • Thank you for the kind words,Y. It’s always a humbling honor to know that folks find my meager offerings worthy of reading so thanks for saying so.

        Personally, as I look around at some of the talent that my fellow editors possess, I’m just glad they still allow my password to log-on to the site 🙂

  10. Hi.

    Mr. B., as always, reading each and every one of your missives is more than a treat to these eyes.

    I can honestly envision you verbally delivering a diary column such as this to a coterie of kids who apparently were bullied on playground, or had to take piano Politics 101 class held at rapt attention by your every word, awaiting the next, as their skulls full of mush would be cleansed by reason and logic, as opposed to being routed by The Blam Stick the inane “gotcha” posting.

    OK, I’ll stop right there while I’m behind. 😉

    Oh yeah…… Just in case anyone cares, I didn’t get “Krakened”, I simply left as a way of showing my support to you, Lady Impact Ohio and several others who got what “The U” down here is about to get – and I did so without saying as much as an in-public “Pffffft” to the powers that be at “Ban Central Station”.

    Just wanted to get that out in the open.

    The only problem I ever had with anyone at “Ban Central Station” (besides the obvious daily Trollskies) was with one moderator who once – just once – told me to “quit it with the Muslims”.

    I replied that I’d “quit it with the Muslims” when they “quit it” with trying to kill every Jew (and all the other ‘infidels’) on the planet.

    Never heard another word about it.

    Now, I get all sorts of ‘edgy’ on my own site and have the title of “Political Analyst” at another.

    I even got poked, prodded and cajoled into becoming one of those Twits…… Thanks again L.I.O. !

    Cheers !

    Kenny Solomon
    Israel Survival Updates
    The American Survival Guide

    Oath Keeper
    Patriot Guard Rider

    — — — —

    Not only have I been dubbed a Hobbit, I’m also considered a terrorist.

    OK, no problem……. “Reaganhu Akhbar !”

  11. If we ever start a Hall Of Fame page here for the best dispatches I nominate this’un for the first entry!

    RedState was the first blog I ever signed up for, though I had read many of them, including Hot Air. What made me decide to join that particular one was the sense of community that it had back in the early part of ’09. I quickly found some kindred spirits there, even among the mods, and enjoyed many discussions that were informative and helped lay out the direction I wanted to pursue in getting involved with politics.

    But something began to change in late ’10. You can look back over VB’s dispatch here to find out what that was. It was one thing for a regular member to declare “My candidate or no one!” but when the FP contribs began the same thing I was afraid the wheels were about to come off. Then came the GE post and I became aware EE was letting one or two of those contributors run roughshod over the rest of us. The Kraken left no doubt. One of us here attempted to set the record straight with a highly recommended post that lasted about a day before the comments were closed. It lasted at the top of the reco chart for well over a week after that, picking up a few more recommendations even after the comments were closed.

    EE posted later that he hoped the opportunity he so generously gave us to let off a little steam after the Kraken was “cathartic”, perhaps the most condescending comment toward the community I’ve ever seen him make.

    I guess rather than have a diverse community made up of tea partiers, Reagan conservatives, Goldwater conservatives, even the occasional, reasonable liberal (yes, there are still a few of those, though the numbers are dwindling rapidly) they would rather be the kingmakers or breakers, as the case may be. The former group can work together to help elect constitutional conservatives to office, despite our differences, the latter tend to morph into one-note wonders that quickly flame out.

    When you have a strong-knit community and then run a bulldozer through it, or let surrogates do so while your back is pointedly turned, you’ve got bigger problems than an ego that is out of control.

    No would-be kingmaker with an attitude like that toward a community of readers he helped build is worth my time anymore.

  12. Vassar, you and some of the rest of us old coots tried to be as Ben Franklin was to those men of Massachusetts. They just are not of the character of that young John Adams. Maybe with time and age they will get what they are incapable of getting now.

  13. It’s hard to be a kingmaker when you keep firing your followers.
    EE got in front the pack for a while and it was no doubt sweet.
    When the pack wasn’t following closely enough for his taste he didn’t realize the pack wasn’t ever really following him.
    Thus, his “get your a$$ in line” response.
    It’s actually getting to be pretty common among people who have forgotten which way is up.

  14. “We’re for grown ups here at Unified Patriots”

    That about sums it all up nicely. Bomb-throwers & name-callers need not apply; enormous egos likewise. Directives to ‘go here and contribute to this one’ are not needed because we’re grown ups here @ Unified Patriots. As a bonus, no annoying pop-up ads! Ka-ching!

  15. I was over there when the Kraken struck. Starting some time in 2009 I used to begin every day with coffee and RS. I was simply stunned when all of a sudden all of you were just gone. If I remember the lame excuse du jour it had something to do with the whiners complaining about how their diaries never got recommended and thus dropped off before more people could read them. Way to go, EE, bounce your absolutely best Diarists and posters in favor of the whiners. Needless to say, the quality of the writings dropped both noticeably and instantly.
    With my a.m. coffee I would read all your diaries and insightful comments, but I confess I started with Vassar’s. VB, your writings demonstrate an ability for calm logic, which is a quality in which I am sorely lacking. I have what can be described as a highly reactive personality and thus the ability to dive into the verbal sewers in the blink of an eye (perhaps in a previous life I was a Democrat).
    So I thank you VB for guiding my thought process in a way it might not have traveled on its own.
    And I thank all here for all you do and for being welcoming to those of us who are relatively new to the political arena.
    I’m glad you are all here and I am equally glad I was able to find you.

  16. My first foray into this public type of venue was on another, now defunct site for a certain presidential candidate back in 2007 or so. A certain Senator from TN. Most of the people there were ones I felt a certain kinship with and desire to make things right. With that passing into the mist of things not to be, my wanderings led me to that “other site” where lo and behold the same people were congregating.

    OK, you might be wondering how this ties in with VB’s prose? A certain member at that other site, while thought provoking in his own right, was flamed. I don’t remember if it was intentional or by “chance”. Doesn’t matter.

    The part I took away was: why are we fighting each other? It’s those guys on the other side of the aisle who should get the attention.

    Prior to the event known as the Kraken some of the other posters were writing thoughtful and insightful dispatches, which helped me to expand on some concepts that always felt nature to me.

    Some have made me laugh (and yes, almost spray tea on the ‘puter) and others have really made me think.

    Herein lies one response to how we might get through this. Maintain a sense of humor while we think of ways to slay the dragon. And… hopefully get the point across the emperor is truly naked.

    VB, if you do go through with the cookout I know at least one Hoosier that will be glad to help, god willing.

  17. I had to go out of state for funeral, got back late yesterday afternoon, read this post, started to respond, then decided that I wanted a night to sleep on it before saying anything.

    There’s a lot that I could say about the Kraken situation but won’t.

    What I will say instead is that there are some very interesting trends beginning to unfold in various areas of our country. Take the situation in Weiner’s district as an example. There are life-long Dems and left-leaning Independents who are walking into the election office of the Repub candidate and voluntarily submitting the information that “Obama is a moron”. They are concerned about the excessive spending that has occurred under this administration and across our government as a whole. Lying under the surface of this response is a growing sentiment that if liberalism=excessive spending and dangerous levels of national debt, then they will reject this liberal position.

    For people who are politically-oriented, this might seem like a “trivial many” type of trend influence in the face of the vetting of conservative candidates. For someone like myself who focuses more on broad societal influences, this falls into the category of the “significant few”…it’s like observing a door of opportunity opening for conservatives that could be very advantageous to our side of this battle if we can keep our mind’s open and focus on presenting why conservatism is the best option we have for turning our nation around.

    My tolerance level for the gutting of our allies that has been going on amongst conservatives lately is below zero. We’re fighting against time more than anything else. I don’t understand the rationale behind wasting what time we do have when it could be put to good use by focusing on providing the general public with a defense of conservative principles and hopefully encouraging them to join us in this battle for our nation’s future.

    I’m fighting a bout of health-related fatigue that’s kicking my butt right now, guys, and I’m in a really foul frame of mind. I’ve tried to keep this as positive and optimistic as possible, all things considered.

    • I’m going to present another example of this phenomenon…education. Our education system isn’t even remotely successful in providing our children with a level of education on the basic fundamentals that would allow them to succeed in life as individuals AND that would allow our nation to have the strength to compete internationally in regards to trade. The more liberal elements of Democrats aren’t going to touch this issue with a ten-foot pole because of their alliances with Teacher’s Unions and their never-ending usage of the race issue. In some cases, such as the situation in NY that involves Harlem Success charter schools, traditional Dem/Liberal orgs are not only alienating themselves from their own base by presenting NO viable options that would resolve the education issue but also becoming an obstacle that stands in the way for these communities to have an opportunity to grow beyond the limitations that it has faced in the past.
      This leaves the door wide open for conservatives to discuss and quite possibly present other options that might encourage some of these voters to at least consider the conservative platform as a viable alternative.

      • There is some really good stuff here. Instead of the caterwauling the lib’s do with scare tactics and name calling, it would be so much more effective for candidates and talking heads on our side of the pasture to teach by example.

        To do otherwise only presents a flip side of the same coin and doesn’t really differentiate the candidates. It’s a heads or tails situation.

        However, if there were an alternative choice not cut from the same cloth and not using the opposite arguments, that sets that argument onto a different plane. It’s no longer heads or tails… That to me is what Pres. Reagan did.

        I still believe most people have a kernel of being conservative in them, but the noise created by the cat fights never really allows sufficient stillness for contemplation.

  18. Line, thank you for all you contribute to the site. Today as always you provide truth and common sense. I think you are looking to the positive with your doors opening analogy. As we destroy the myth and plague of liberalism we must work for the positive renewal of America as it traditionally existed.

    • RH, I’m just someone who posts at this site. It isn’t my responsibility to define for anyone else what approach this site or any other site takes. However, if we look at the situation objectively, a lot of other conservative sites are engaging in some vicious blood-letting against those in their own ranks, so to speak.
      UP is different from a lot of other websites. It is possible that this site could choose to forge a path of it’s own by taking on the challenge of focusing on why conservatism is our best option, first and foremost. If that is the choice that is made, then this site has the potential to become the proverbial “voice in the wilderness”.

      That voice is badly needed right now, RH.

  19. VB, thanks for this. When I was an ignorant coward Dem, I was a party man. Since my 2000 conversion to conservatism and the GOP, I am a party man. We get government policies and laws changed in America thru parties. I will support the GOP nominee and Romney actually looks better to me now than he did back in 2008 when I backed him until Fred came in too late. I also bemoan the treatment of Cain at RS.

  20. Things are heating up big-time.

    Jamie Radtke Demands Apology from RedState’s Erick Erickson For Drunk Attacks.

    That link is to Jim Hoft’s Gateway Pundit.

    My comment at the page is #3 and I linked Jim to this column.

    Me thinkest a war hath begun and I’ve got plenty of sweet tea, a brand new lawn chair, an over-abundance of popcorn and some really great prescription sunglasses.

    We’d better get it together as conservatives/patriots or we’ll see those non-existent FEMA Camps open their doors and the cattle cars start rolling in.

    Kenny Solomon
    Israel Survival Updates
    The American Survival Guide

    Oath Keeper
    Patriot Guard Rider

    Reaganhu Akhbar !

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