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Cuba Gooding Should School Speaker Boehner on Dealing with Tim Geithner

If only Cuba Gooding could school Boehner and McConnell on what they should be asking of Treasury Secretary Geithner. I can add the stiffs like Britt Hume and Bret Baird of FNC to the mix of people Cuba Gooding could school. It saddens me that so many establishment people are taking Tim Geithner at his word about paying our federal debt. Why is it a secret how much money is in the US Treasury? I am not one who believes we have not already authorized more money to be paid out than we have, but how much more? What new spending can the US Congress refuse to authorize? There are no good reasons why this information can not be forthcoming from Geithner. The problem is that the government has refused to cut spending and live within the smaller revenues our high unemployment is generating. The money is on the sidelines and not being invested in job creation because there is so much fear and uncertainty about what the US government is doing. For over 800 days the US Senate has not passed a budget. For us to keep our Republic it is necessary for the US Senate as well as the US House to pass a budget that a US President signs. We need a moratorium from new job killing regulations being promulgated by all of the US programs and departments. If these things occur, then the certainty and confidence will return. Only then are the private sector investors going to start creating jobs.

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I am retired after 36 years of being a state of Indiana employee. I enjoy writing and reading conservative blogs.

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  1. Yes. Also, I need to be schooled on how a President can ‘veto’ a budget. If a Congress reduces or eliminates appropriations for some or many federal departments and programs, the President can ‘veto’ that and keep the status quo? You are absolutely right, Pilgrim. Instead of critters dutifully traipsing over to the WH, they need to be hauling administration officials over to the Hill.

    • Well the President does have a veto pen just like a North Carolina Governor. In North Carolina the legislators got the votes to override the Governor’s veto. For Obama’s time in office the US Senate has helped him avoid using the veto. No budget has been passed in the US Senate for more than 810 days.

      • So the budget, and spending, and appropriations are just like any other legislation, in that it takes a two-thirds majority to override a presidential veto. Meaning that, the Department of Education must be funded in perpetuity, at current levels, with whatever automatic increases were put in in the original legislation until the Republicans have a two-thirds majority and can defund it. Then, when the next Congress comes in in two years, they can put it all back in again. This is like saying the President has the spending power and not the Congress. And then, of course, you have Federal Courts, which seem to think they have the power to make Congress spoend money. And then you have the Gang of Six, who apparently think if you form a gang, you can get tax increases against the expressed will of the majority of the people and the majority of the Congress. All this could be negotiated and navigated if the Federal Government was not the Leviathan it is and if there wasn’t this thing known asCreeping,then Galloping, Progressive Socialism, which seems to have infected both sides of the aisle. …..nobody knows…..the trouble I’ve seen……nobody knows…..the trouble…….

        • Well, if we elect a GOP President, and the GOP hold a majority in the House and Senate, then the President signs instead of vetoes the budget, spending, and appropriation bills with the cuts. No super majority is required this way.

          • If you “cut” departments, agencies and commissions out of existence, that would be fine. Much harder to rebuild the Department of Education after it’s offices have been turned into warehouses, and its denizens have been scattered to the various states, where they can be prosecuted for interfering with public education.

        • I know that vetoes of budget bills of some type (passed under the budget reconciliation act?) can be overridden with simple majorities. But there are some appropriation bills that do require the regular 2/3 because that is how Bush kept the Dems from de-funding the surge in Iraq, I think. Some here know more than me on this. Maybe they will weigh in…

          • Below is the text from the US Constitution Article I Section 7

            Section 7 – Revenue Bills, Legislative Process, Presidential Veto

            All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

            Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

            Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

            • Ok, thx for that Pil’, as that reminds that what I was confused about and what bob’ was referring to that is different about budget bills vs other bills is the Senate’s filibuster rules (not in the Constitution). The Senate requires only a bare majority to invoke cloture on budget bills. But I think they even have some exception to that. Not sure that a debt ceiling bill couldn’t be filibustered.

  2. Pilgrim, major bravos for being the first? competent columnist on Earth? This seems fundamental to me, which persuades that the GOP leadership must not want the actual numbers to be public. It seems they prefer to accept a Geithner default date so they can get this over with. But FNC? They do FOIA requests all the time and break news. Are they incompetent?

    This is quite simple. Timmy, show us the following readily available info for July 20, 2011:

    Cash on hand
    minus Accounts payable thru Aug 1
    plus Expected revenues between now and Aug 1
    equals Expected balance for Aug 2 aka Armeggedon

    Then we will see if you have the funds to pay int on debt and Soc Sec for August. If not, then you and Obama will be arrested for embezzlement and the investigation will focus on what pacific islands you bought to hide at.

  3. Great graph. If it went back to 1940s one would see that only during WWII do graph lines go higher than under ObamaDems.The main reason for the low lines in the late 50s is GDP growth. JFK keeps them low despite post-Sputnik build-up due to supply side tax rate cuts. Great Society and other entitlements start to build up in late 70s on. Reagan rightfully builds up defense as Dems betray him on spending. Massive Reagan-policy caused GDP growth drops it some but entitlements build up. However Newt Congress continues Reagan boom and holds line on spending in 90s. Entitlements continue build up and Bush GOP lets us down in 2000s. ObamaDems go insane.

  1. Yes. Also, I need to be schooled on how a President can ‘veto’ a budget. If a Congress reduces or eliminates appropriations for some or many federal departments and programs, the President can ‘veto’ that and keep the status quo? You are absolutely right, Pilgrim. Instead of critters dutifully traipsing over to the WH, they need to be hauling administration officials over to the Hill.

    • Well the President does have a veto pen just like a North Carolina Governor. In North Carolina the legislators got the votes to override the Governor’s veto. For Obama’s time in office the US Senate has helped him avoid using the veto. No budget has been passed in the US Senate for more than 810 days.

      • So the budget, and spending, and appropriations are just like any other legislation, in that it takes a two-thirds majority to override a presidential veto. Meaning that, the Department of Education must be funded in perpetuity, at current levels, with whatever automatic increases were put in in the original legislation until the Republicans have a two-thirds majority and can defund it. Then, when the next Congress comes in in two years, they can put it all back in again. This is like saying the President has the spending power and not the Congress. And then, of course, you have Federal Courts, which seem to think they have the power to make Congress spoend money. And then you have the Gang of Six, who apparently think if you form a gang, you can get tax increases against the expressed will of the majority of the people and the majority of the Congress. All this could be negotiated and navigated if the Federal Government was not the Leviathan it is and if there wasn’t this thing known asCreeping,then Galloping, Progressive Socialism, which seems to have infected both sides of the aisle. …..nobody knows…..the trouble I’ve seen……nobody knows…..the trouble…….

        • Well, if we elect a GOP President, and the GOP hold a majority in the House and Senate, then the President signs instead of vetoes the budget, spending, and appropriation bills with the cuts. No super majority is required this way.

          • If you “cut” departments, agencies and commissions out of existence, that would be fine. Much harder to rebuild the Department of Education after it’s offices have been turned into warehouses, and its denizens have been scattered to the various states, where they can be prosecuted for interfering with public education.

        • I know that vetoes of budget bills of some type (passed under the budget reconciliation act?) can be overridden with simple majorities. But there are some appropriation bills that do require the regular 2/3 because that is how Bush kept the Dems from de-funding the surge in Iraq, I think. Some here know more than me on this. Maybe they will weigh in…

          • Below is the text from the US Constitution Article I Section 7

            Section 7 – Revenue Bills, Legislative Process, Presidential Veto

            All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

            Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

            Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

            • Ok, thx for that Pil’, as that reminds that what I was confused about and what bob’ was referring to that is different about budget bills vs other bills is the Senate’s filibuster rules (not in the Constitution). The Senate requires only a bare majority to invoke cloture on budget bills. But I think they even have some exception to that. Not sure that a debt ceiling bill couldn’t be filibustered.

  2. Pilgrim, major bravos for being the first? competent columnist on Earth? This seems fundamental to me, which persuades that the GOP leadership must not want the actual numbers to be public. It seems they prefer to accept a Geithner default date so they can get this over with. But FNC? They do FOIA requests all the time and break news. Are they incompetent?

    This is quite simple. Timmy, show us the following readily available info for July 20, 2011:

    Cash on hand
    minus Accounts payable thru Aug 1
    plus Expected revenues between now and Aug 1
    equals Expected balance for Aug 2 aka Armeggedon

    Then we will see if you have the funds to pay int on debt and Soc Sec for August. If not, then you and Obama will be arrested for embezzlement and the investigation will focus on what pacific islands you bought to hide at.

  3. Great graph. If it went back to 1940s one would see that only during WWII do graph lines go higher than under ObamaDems.The main reason for the low lines in the late 50s is GDP growth. JFK keeps them low despite post-Sputnik build-up due to supply side tax rate cuts. Great Society and other entitlements start to build up in late 70s on. Reagan rightfully builds up defense as Dems betray him on spending. Massive Reagan-policy caused GDP growth drops it some but entitlements build up. However Newt Congress continues Reagan boom and holds line on spending in 90s. Entitlements continue build up and Bush GOP lets us down in 2000s. ObamaDems go insane.

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