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Jose Guerena, former USMC, killed by SWAT Team in Tucson

Yes, that SWAT team, Sheriff Clarence Dupnik’s SWAT team.

Watch and read:

Title: Marine murdered by SWAT at home in Tucson, Arizona

Aired this morning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFhZ-G1Pb1Q

Seems SWAT got the wrong house, and Jose never fired a weapon he used for home defense. Safety was still on. SWAT never identified themselves either. They said, surviving she said. They shot him over 60 times. Then SWAT refused to allow EMS personnel to get to him for an hour.

SWAT lied and for 6 days Dupnik refused to allow local media access. It’s only making news now.

Watch this case, as this is the same guy, Dupnik, who kept Jared Loughner on the streets for years, covering up his own wrong doing, he is also a leftist thug.

[UPDATE] Helmet cam captures deadly home invasion by SWAT:

 

Worse news: 8 Americans killed in Kandahar yesterday. We’ll honor those men as soon as their names are made public, over the Memorial Day weekend.

 

 

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    • Lady, I have a feeling those guys aren’t sleeping too well lately. Most PD tactical units these days are staffed by former military guys with quite a bit of recent experience.

      It’s the mindset of “This place is going to be full of bad guys, so watch yourselves” that defines an unwritten ROE of “shoot first, ask questions later.” that can bite them (and did) in the ass.

      The guy being a Marine has to be killing them guys at night.

  1. I think a cover-up is in the making, St G. Jaded mentioned the jack-booted thugs of our paramilitaries on the front page. In these times, we have to ask, will they know who they work for if push comes to shove?

    This requires a lot of watching.

    • He was a Marine Veteran with 2 tours in Iraq, currently employed at the Asarco copper mine, where he had finished a night shift just before the SWAT team kicked in his door. The AR 15 is a semi-auto version of the M16 or M4 carbine, other than being one of the black, scary looking guns that Democrats hate there’s nothing illegal about it. It even makes sense for a vet to own one for home defense, it’s got the same weight, shape and provides the same cheek to stock weld that he’s accustomed to from his M4. They also found a “silver plated” (nickel?) Super 38, reportedly a “status symbol among mexican drug cartels” I guess that makes Mrs Nessa a mexican cartel lord. I bought her one a few months ago. I’m going to have to ask her what she’s doing with all the drug money, she ain’t sharing it with me!

      ABC News link: https://abcnews.go.com/US/swat-team-gunned-marine-find-drugs/story?id=13702756

  2. seems like bad training. 70 shots is a lot for a situation like this, reminds me of the NYPD where I used to live.

    In the helmet cam, one member of the SWAT team falls after the breach, another one runs away when the shooting starts, and then comes back and starts shooting over the heads of the inserted team members. Just ridiculous.

    The marine victim, never took his weapon off safe. Being well trained, he probably realized they were police, and never took any action to fire.

    Sometimes the most dangerous people with guns are police.

    • I’ve worked with Law Enforcement Agencies while training them in Military Operations in Urban Terrain. They suck. For one thing the missions are totally different, as a Soldier there is no need to discern friendly or enemy when clearing a building, you can follow a real grenade not a useless flash bang. But when police begin using the same tactics, techniques and procedures, there’s a problem.

  3. Oh, this makes me sick. I feel so terrible, not only for the family that lost their husband/father/son, but for the men on the SWAT team.

    I’ll never believe that our law enforcement guys deliberately killed one of our heroes. It is surely making them heart sick right now.

    And that fool politician that thought you could kill someone and cover it up needs to be taken out and skinned. Slowly.

  4. This is a tragic situation. Nessa has made some valuable observations here, and I agree with them. Beyond that, I don’t feel like I have enough information to assess further, except for two points: First, if it really was an hour before EMTs were allowed inside to work on Guerena, that’s unreasonable. No way it takes an hour to clear a house that size. Second, the thing that strikes me is that the tone of some of the reporting on this incident tends toward a “gotcha” aimed at Dupnik, because of his past incompetence and outspoken leftist politics. That’s only natural, I suppose, but it’s unfortunate. Through his actions, Dupnik has placed his deputies in a position where everything they do will be viewed, at least partially, through the lense of who he is and what he’s done, not on who they themselves are and what they have done. There is a larger lesson here about how the wrong leadership causes many different kinds of problems on many different levels of an agency, an organization . . . or a country.

    • I agree, Kimberley, The young man could possibly have been part of a larger criminal scheme, but Dupnik has created the illusion of a cover-up. I wish there was a third party investigation just so the Latino community could rely on the decision handed-down. As one of our own say, most of these SWAT guys were probably ex-military. There is still much to follow on this in coming days, adn we will be watching.,

    • “There are no bad Regiments, there are only bad Officers ” – Field Marshal Lord Slim

      In the military sense you could replace Officers with Leaders and arrive at exactly the same meaning.

  5. Aside from the amateurish behavior noted above, What concerns me is the 1:14 wait time to allow the paramedics in. No way the site wasn’t considered secure well before that time. They could have even moved him outside on a stretcher.

    Literally all of the excuses in the world could be exercised to allow for a bunch of excitable wanna be real cops to make stupid mistakes but that is the one that seems beyond the pale and beyond excuse.

    Almost like they were waiting for him to expire.

    Given that this is a commie county run by a commie sheriff is that hard to believe? Isn’t this how they do business?

    • Lady, I have a feeling those guys aren’t sleeping too well lately. Most PD tactical units these days are staffed by former military guys with quite a bit of recent experience.

      It’s the mindset of “This place is going to be full of bad guys, so watch yourselves” that defines an unwritten ROE of “shoot first, ask questions later.” that can bite them (and did) in the ass.

      The guy being a Marine has to be killing them guys at night.

  1. I think a cover-up is in the making, St G. Jaded mentioned the jack-booted thugs of our paramilitaries on the front page. In these times, we have to ask, will they know who they work for if push comes to shove?

    This requires a lot of watching.

    • He was a Marine Veteran with 2 tours in Iraq, currently employed at the Asarco copper mine, where he had finished a night shift just before the SWAT team kicked in his door. The AR 15 is a semi-auto version of the M16 or M4 carbine, other than being one of the black, scary looking guns that Democrats hate there’s nothing illegal about it. It even makes sense for a vet to own one for home defense, it’s got the same weight, shape and provides the same cheek to stock weld that he’s accustomed to from his M4. They also found a “silver plated” (nickel?) Super 38, reportedly a “status symbol among mexican drug cartels” I guess that makes Mrs Nessa a mexican cartel lord. I bought her one a few months ago. I’m going to have to ask her what she’s doing with all the drug money, she ain’t sharing it with me!

      ABC News link: https://abcnews.go.com/US/swat-team-gunned-marine-find-drugs/story?id=13702756

  2. seems like bad training. 70 shots is a lot for a situation like this, reminds me of the NYPD where I used to live.

    In the helmet cam, one member of the SWAT team falls after the breach, another one runs away when the shooting starts, and then comes back and starts shooting over the heads of the inserted team members. Just ridiculous.

    The marine victim, never took his weapon off safe. Being well trained, he probably realized they were police, and never took any action to fire.

    Sometimes the most dangerous people with guns are police.

    • I’ve worked with Law Enforcement Agencies while training them in Military Operations in Urban Terrain. They suck. For one thing the missions are totally different, as a Soldier there is no need to discern friendly or enemy when clearing a building, you can follow a real grenade not a useless flash bang. But when police begin using the same tactics, techniques and procedures, there’s a problem.

  3. Oh, this makes me sick. I feel so terrible, not only for the family that lost their husband/father/son, but for the men on the SWAT team.

    I’ll never believe that our law enforcement guys deliberately killed one of our heroes. It is surely making them heart sick right now.

    And that fool politician that thought you could kill someone and cover it up needs to be taken out and skinned. Slowly.

  4. This is a tragic situation. Nessa has made some valuable observations here, and I agree with them. Beyond that, I don’t feel like I have enough information to assess further, except for two points: First, if it really was an hour before EMTs were allowed inside to work on Guerena, that’s unreasonable. No way it takes an hour to clear a house that size. Second, the thing that strikes me is that the tone of some of the reporting on this incident tends toward a “gotcha” aimed at Dupnik, because of his past incompetence and outspoken leftist politics. That’s only natural, I suppose, but it’s unfortunate. Through his actions, Dupnik has placed his deputies in a position where everything they do will be viewed, at least partially, through the lense of who he is and what he’s done, not on who they themselves are and what they have done. There is a larger lesson here about how the wrong leadership causes many different kinds of problems on many different levels of an agency, an organization . . . or a country.

    • I agree, Kimberley, The young man could possibly have been part of a larger criminal scheme, but Dupnik has created the illusion of a cover-up. I wish there was a third party investigation just so the Latino community could rely on the decision handed-down. As one of our own say, most of these SWAT guys were probably ex-military. There is still much to follow on this in coming days, adn we will be watching.,

    • “There are no bad Regiments, there are only bad Officers ” – Field Marshal Lord Slim

      In the military sense you could replace Officers with Leaders and arrive at exactly the same meaning.

  5. Aside from the amateurish behavior noted above, What concerns me is the 1:14 wait time to allow the paramedics in. No way the site wasn’t considered secure well before that time. They could have even moved him outside on a stretcher.

    Literally all of the excuses in the world could be exercised to allow for a bunch of excitable wanna be real cops to make stupid mistakes but that is the one that seems beyond the pale and beyond excuse.

    Almost like they were waiting for him to expire.

    Given that this is a commie county run by a commie sheriff is that hard to believe? Isn’t this how they do business?

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