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A Single Concern on the Assassination of Osama Bin Laden

Musadeq Sadeq/AP (A street scene in Kabul on Monday)

On Monday, after getting a few details about Sunday’s raid, my first thoughts went to the Hornet. (Don’t worry, I’ll explain.)

Of course there will be many questions arise out about this assassination of Osama bin Laden. One, was he in fact “assassinated?” I prefer to think so, so will call it that.  Some say he was unarmed, shielded by a woman, while others say he was packing and refused to go quietly.

(h/t BeagleScout)

I think even the Obama team could find no profit in spiriting bin Laden back to Guantanamo. There had to be a kill order.

Whether that order was issued Sunday, or the previous Sunday is of no moment to me. But it will be to others…

…for as expected, a new group of conspiracy theorists will arise, every one of them already knowing the Acme Company Ready-to-Use Field DNA Test Kit had been rejected by Warner Bros as “too improbable” for their latest Wile E. Coyote cartoon. So no, they say, that “99.8 match” stuff won’t work with this bunch if Obama died this past Sunday.

They will hang on every inconsistency relating to the raid and build a pyramid on the internet before our very eyes…the permutations for the inconsistencies alone as to how Osama died, how he was buried, if it was in fact him, will spiral into the thousands by nightfall Thursday.  “If not that, then why this…” is the mating call of the too-clever-by-half, so the  Birthers are finished…for awhile, and this bunch, the Deathers they will be called, will move center stage for awhile.

And the hamfisted inability of this administration’s various agency spokesmen in getting their stories straight will only subsidize this process of fertilizing these paranoid nitpickers in vitro.

Why can’t they get those stories straight?

(As we already know with the libels about the birth certificate, I foresee a great meeting of the minds here between true conspiracists, who are good at drawing out inconsistencies, but can’t draw a straight line toward a plausible conclusion if their lives depended on it,  and old codgers who can…tell a phony cover story when they see one. I’m a big one for cover stories when a lie is involved. Use them all the time, in fact. I even approve of many lies, and unlike the birth certificate issue, can see many possible justifications for lying here. I just wish it were done more artfully…by sober grown-ups, preferably.)

The trivial aside, on a more serious note, and more importantly, questions will also arise as to whether there was any political purpose in the timing or manner of the raid?

Of course there was, but you may ask, why not? Everyone else does it.

Well, yes and no.

At best, this sort of up-tick in Obama’s sinking popularity (it’s so bad I’m told Kenyans are now saying he was born in America) is fleeting, less we forget how quickly 911 was to Democrats. It only took them 3-4 days to walk out of their love-in with the Oneness of America, going back to the drawing board to continue dividing it.

I’m afraid the killing of one symbolic figurehead doesn’t have fifteen months worth of legs to overcome the broad array of negatives Obama’s performance in office has earned him. My next fill-up will be Friday.

So then, consider the potential downside of political acts not entirely thought out, as they can be powerful in the other direction.

Which brings me to the Hornet.

Let me explain.

On April 18, 1942, only four months after Pearl Harbor, 16 B-25 Mitchell bombers took off from the deck of the USS Hornet to drop their loads over Tokyo.

A failure as a military raid, but with huge morale consequences to both the American and Japanese people at each end of the benefits spectrum, it was a closely guarded secret, not just before, but well after the raid.

The original New York Times report, on the 19th, said they had launched from the Shangri La (a fictional ship). And the Hornet was accompanied by a task force of heavy cruisers and destroyers, and one more carrier, the Enterprise, who flew air cover, and their names, too, were a closely guarded secret as they returned to Pearl a week later. There was a reason. You see, we knew the Japanese military took such things personally.

But they were spotted, and by the end of 1942 6 of the original 16 of the Doolittle Raid Task Force had been sunk, the Hornet specially targeted. She was sunk by two attacks at the Battle of Santa Cruz Island, 26 October, 1942. A lot of seamen died.

It’s my understanding that Islamists, like the Japanese, take these things personally. But already, just three days after this raid, (or ten, no matter) too much is already known about an event…units, names? families?, with photos to follow?…which probably never needed to be revealed at all.

I can think of all sorts of intel and military benefits in never revealing that we had “got him” at all…I sure didn’t need to know, nor feel a bit better because of it…which far outweigh the few purely political purposes in letting the world know even the slightest amount of news.

For a man and regime that has been built entirely on symbolism, it’s entirely understandable why they would put so much stock in wanting to publicly kill another symbol of equal value, but quite frankly, the rest of our lives are not much affected, as we’ll shortly find out, when we have to fill up again. I never cared who killed J.R., either. Or JFK, or Princess Di. But I do care about the price at pump.

So, the potential negatives far outweigh these forays into childish symbolism, and Obama may yet rue the day.

If I had had my way, I’d have announced that the raid had been carried out by Cmdr Aragorn and 40 Volunteers of Dunharrow, arriving in Pakistan flying Corsairs. Then let the few mullahs who can actually read figure out the rest.

 

vassarbushmills
Citizen With Bark On

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  1. Quite annoying when reasonable people ask reasonable questions, and the Left (and some on the right) go crazy. I think this is going to continue. Everytime someone asks a valid question, because the WH can’t keep their story straight, we’ll be attacked as conspiracists. Guess that goes with the racist meme they’re pushing.

    I am amazed at the new instant DNA kit, ought to help clear the huge backlog of cases tying up the criminal courts. Maybe free a few from prison, as the claim for their innocence is based on waiting for DNA. (Which btw, is fine with me.)

    I believe he is dead, and I also believe he has been irrelevant for some time. Timing, well timing is everything to this administration, that and trying to prove that the man in charge is really doing something besides playing golf and flying around fund-raising. Prefer he stay away from Ground Zero on Thursday, that is sacred ground to some of us, and no hypocrites need attend.

    • On the issue of DNA. I see no reason why the USA would not have been able to collect some of OBL’s DNA over the last 15 years, the better to identify him with. Clinton had him under surveillance, just never wanted to pull the trigger. Bush was chasing him all over the border region, following closely many times. And Obama has been a busy beaver blowing up OBL’s fan club with missiles fired from Predator drones. There were many, many opportunities to collect DNA from places OBL had recently vacated.

      If a target’s own DNA is already available is it easier and quicker to do a DNA match than the much told week or two?

  2. Agreed, way to overblown. It is sad that so many of the American people have a need to see the blood and gore. Unfortunately, that is what so much of this nation has become. OTOH, it is telling just how many people in this country cannot believe what this president, and his administration, says about anything. Obama has invited the skeptics.

    It makes not one dang bit of difference that OBL was killed. He was so busy hiding out that he couldn’t direct or control diddly squat. He did start it though.

    My first thoughts when I heard the news was that we may have had a very different world had Bill Clinton taken his movement seriously. He had more than one opportunity to take him out during his presidency. I watched a documentary on the bin Laden terrorist training camps, which we had infiltrated, and had intelligence from, that they were training young kids to hate Americans. That was in the late 90’s. Clinton, as usual, decided to do nothing about it. Of course that was the same president that sold our military weapons secrets to the Chinese for campaign donations. And Hillary thinks the Pock-e-stans are great allies.

  3. And to think I had been feeling guilty because I didn’t think the death of bin Laden was as big a deal as others do. I celebrate the closure for the families of the victims of 9/11. And I appreciate the morale boost it presented to our troops and veterans. His death is a fact and a point in history. We’d best move on and take care of the present, to insure we have a future.

    Excellent – great read, Vassar..

  4. vassar, I can’t vouch for the authenticity of this info, but it has a greater ring of truth to it than anything else I’ve seen. The description of events fits in with the character of each of the individuals involved. Plus, it might explain why some members of the admin are having problems getting their stories straight.

    https://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

    It’s interesting, but insignificant, unless it was leaked for the purpose of setting up a challenge for 2012 on the Dems side of the fence.

  5. This is why when I see folks who are on retainer at cable networks holding forth on what they know about how matters go, I hope they are fudging. On the CIC, I keep going back to the transcript of his address Sunday night and finding things that irritate, not the least of which is that he mentioned G.W. Bush only once and that was in the context of Bush agreeing that we are not at war with Islam. Absolutely no hat tip to Bush at all. Times change – ww2 to present, shrinking world, communications, sources and methods, politics, et cetera. One thing that doesn’t is character.

  6. And the hamfisted inability of this administration’s various agency spokesmen in getting their stories straight will only subsidize this process of fertilizing these paranoid nitpickers in vitro.

    There’s a reason why this administration can’t get it’s story straight. Most of them live in the fantasies of their own individual minds, not in the real world, which means whatever story they tell that contradicts any other story told, is equally valid. In other words, they’re all true because their own world demands that they be.

    As for being overblown, everything dealing with Obama is overblown by the same minds, because 99.9% of what they believe isn’t real.

  1. Quite annoying when reasonable people ask reasonable questions, and the Left (and some on the right) go crazy. I think this is going to continue. Everytime someone asks a valid question, because the WH can’t keep their story straight, we’ll be attacked as conspiracists. Guess that goes with the racist meme they’re pushing.

    I am amazed at the new instant DNA kit, ought to help clear the huge backlog of cases tying up the criminal courts. Maybe free a few from prison, as the claim for their innocence is based on waiting for DNA. (Which btw, is fine with me.)

    I believe he is dead, and I also believe he has been irrelevant for some time. Timing, well timing is everything to this administration, that and trying to prove that the man in charge is really doing something besides playing golf and flying around fund-raising. Prefer he stay away from Ground Zero on Thursday, that is sacred ground to some of us, and no hypocrites need attend.

    • On the issue of DNA. I see no reason why the USA would not have been able to collect some of OBL’s DNA over the last 15 years, the better to identify him with. Clinton had him under surveillance, just never wanted to pull the trigger. Bush was chasing him all over the border region, following closely many times. And Obama has been a busy beaver blowing up OBL’s fan club with missiles fired from Predator drones. There were many, many opportunities to collect DNA from places OBL had recently vacated.

      If a target’s own DNA is already available is it easier and quicker to do a DNA match than the much told week or two?

  2. Agreed, way to overblown. It is sad that so many of the American people have a need to see the blood and gore. Unfortunately, that is what so much of this nation has become. OTOH, it is telling just how many people in this country cannot believe what this president, and his administration, says about anything. Obama has invited the skeptics.

    It makes not one dang bit of difference that OBL was killed. He was so busy hiding out that he couldn’t direct or control diddly squat. He did start it though.

    My first thoughts when I heard the news was that we may have had a very different world had Bill Clinton taken his movement seriously. He had more than one opportunity to take him out during his presidency. I watched a documentary on the bin Laden terrorist training camps, which we had infiltrated, and had intelligence from, that they were training young kids to hate Americans. That was in the late 90’s. Clinton, as usual, decided to do nothing about it. Of course that was the same president that sold our military weapons secrets to the Chinese for campaign donations. And Hillary thinks the Pock-e-stans are great allies.

  3. And to think I had been feeling guilty because I didn’t think the death of bin Laden was as big a deal as others do. I celebrate the closure for the families of the victims of 9/11. And I appreciate the morale boost it presented to our troops and veterans. His death is a fact and a point in history. We’d best move on and take care of the present, to insure we have a future.

    Excellent – great read, Vassar..

  4. vassar, I can’t vouch for the authenticity of this info, but it has a greater ring of truth to it than anything else I’ve seen. The description of events fits in with the character of each of the individuals involved. Plus, it might explain why some members of the admin are having problems getting their stories straight.

    https://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

    It’s interesting, but insignificant, unless it was leaked for the purpose of setting up a challenge for 2012 on the Dems side of the fence.

  5. This is why when I see folks who are on retainer at cable networks holding forth on what they know about how matters go, I hope they are fudging. On the CIC, I keep going back to the transcript of his address Sunday night and finding things that irritate, not the least of which is that he mentioned G.W. Bush only once and that was in the context of Bush agreeing that we are not at war with Islam. Absolutely no hat tip to Bush at all. Times change – ww2 to present, shrinking world, communications, sources and methods, politics, et cetera. One thing that doesn’t is character.

  6. And the hamfisted inability of this administration’s various agency spokesmen in getting their stories straight will only subsidize this process of fertilizing these paranoid nitpickers in vitro.

    There’s a reason why this administration can’t get it’s story straight. Most of them live in the fantasies of their own individual minds, not in the real world, which means whatever story they tell that contradicts any other story told, is equally valid. In other words, they’re all true because their own world demands that they be.

    As for being overblown, everything dealing with Obama is overblown by the same minds, because 99.9% of what they believe isn’t real.

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