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The Death Of Birtherism?


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According to CNN’s Political Ticker you would think so:

President Obama released his original birth certificate Wednesday, saying the controversy surrounding the issue had become a “sideshow.”

The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.

“Over the last two and half years, I have watched with amusement. I have been puzzled with the degree with which this thing just kept going,” Obama told reporters Wednesday.

“We are not going to be able to solve are problems if we get distracted by side shows.” he added.

I was never much “in” to the whole birther thing beyond seeing it as reflective of the extent to which this President lies, dodges, and deflects. The release of this doesn’t change anything for me, although I’m curious – will it put this mess to a rest so we can remove him from office because he sucks at his job?

Or do we still need to belabor the point over whether he’s eligible for the job he’s sucked at for the past two years…and promises to continue sucking at it for the next two?

[lead image from CNN’s Political Ticker]

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There's not much to say... I come from a long line of Appalachian folk that landed in America long before flipping off the King was even a twinkle in the eyes of our founding fathers. We have been Carpenters and coal miners... Soldiers & Sailors and pig farmers and Sunday morning circuit-riding preachers. Hell, I'm told we have even been fairly decent bootleggers too.

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  1. This won’t do anything to shut up true birthers, but it will go far shut up Trump about it, which I suspect, was a prime purpose.

    But as to that other group often libeled as being birthers, i.e., those who want to know what Obama has been hiding, it means nothing, and maybe even exacerbates it.

    For someone will ask what a state document, which belongs solely in a bureau of vital statistics or hall or records of Hawaii, in now in the hands of the birthee,…without a chain of custody. Hawaiian officials have long stated they couldn’t find this document, so what gives?

    That kind of stuff will keep the story alive.

  2. I can only hope you’re right Haystack. I’ve long thought that Obama keeps the birther stuff going in order to have a club to use against everyone who opposes him. “Look at the rubes! They even think I wasn’t really born where my birth certificate says I was born!” It’s a way to keep Rule 5 in play.

    • I with them complete success! Especially when they require that their candidate will endorse the Green party candidate when they get trounced by Obama.
      I really encourage this behaviour:
      “NPA seeks to break the stranglehold of the corrupted Democratic Party on the minds and voting behavior of the progressive electorate.”

      Priceless!

  3. “Over the last two and a half years, I have watched with amusement.” And played golf. And played basketball. And took vacations. And videotaped my NCAA bracket picks. And mocked people who ….work for the Cambridge Police Department; listen to talk radio; are afflicted with mental disorders; question by economic competence. And expended a quarter of a billion dollars worth of cruise missiles in a single afternoon. And taunted the Israeli people with cavalier expressions of my lack of concern for their security. Yes, I am easily amused.

  4. There is a portion of the population, our older adults, who see things pretty much in black and white. I doubt that they really will believe the authenticity of this document (doesn’t matter to me), because the issue represents to them the real concern about this man. In their eyes (and others) he is a foreigner, in manner, style, and character. He speaks in a voice that doesn’t resonate American, and acts in a way that is foreign to the average American. We know this is because he spent his childhood overseas, but many can’t wrap their minds around the fact that he should be president.

    That said, this didn’t really answer any questions, only raised more. But now, since it is much too early for Trump to be quieted, perhaps he’ll go on and demand a look see at the college transcripts, the passport he traveled on to Indonesia, and the selective service registration. Someone, somewhere is hiding the fact that this man, who they touted as godlike, is nothing more than an ordinary man who took the American people for a ride.

    • As one of “our older adults” I have long felt the passport is critical.
      About 30 seconds after this numb n*ts was elected I spent quite a bit of time reading everything Phillip J. Berg Esq. and everybody else had ever written about this subject and quite a bit of it was interesting, to say the least. Since nothing ever became of it, I have since allowed most of the details to go fallow in my mind, but the question of the passport always stayed with me. Go Trump!
      Then there is the question of just where did our infantile little community organizer get the 3 + million he has spent burying all this?
      If I remember correctly, FOX sent someone a while back to interview about 400 people who were at Columbia during the years he was allegedly there and no one remembered him from any classes or extra-curriculars etc. including Stephanopoulis.
      Lady P, in a post a while back you referenced his “handlers” and I most certainly believe they are there. Have you any insights/thoughts as to just whom they might be? Are we talking just Soros or do you think they go further and deeper than him… David Rockefeller anyone? I was reading books about him and those who at the time were referenced as “the gnomes of Zurich” back in the early 70’s.

      • John Brennan was the CEO of the company who breached Obama’s passport records during the campaign.

        John Brennan was a paid adviser to O’s campaign.

        John Brennan went on to become a security advisor to obama admin. He was considered for head of CIA but withdrew because that required a senate hearing/confirmation.

        The questions and investigation will continue on all aspects of Obama’s past. Why? because people are crazy? No, because he has sealed everything while saying he would have the most transparent admin ever. Everything must be investigated.

  5. Where’s the stamp? That piece of paper is more suited to finishing your morning business than it is to prove anything. The Army won’t accept a birth certificate that you provide, it has to come from the courthouse, with a stamp. Nor will a college or any other institution. But why should someone as low as We, the People deserve a stamped and true document of the Anointed One’s history? I don’t give two sh*ts where he was born but I’m thinking I’d like to know if he got grants for his as yet unused Ivy League education because he was a Kenyan or Venutian or some other crap. I just want to see more of his lies, in print, where he cannot escape them.

  6. Notice the timing of the BC release? Bernanke testimony and also shakeup of CIA chief, Sec Def change etc….

    I’m glad Trump forced the issue now, rather than Obama sitting on it until sometime right before the election. A win for Trump (even though I don’t trust the guy). If we get this stuff out of the way Obama will have to be accountable for issues.

    If Obama was adopted by Lolo Seoterro the original birth certificate is sealed and a new one is issued w/ the new fathers name. This is why the original original certificate was hard to come by because it was sealed. I wonder if they do that for any age child? Was Obama ever adopted? Where are those documents? Barry released the original original for some sleight of hand. This is only the beginning of the questions here and obama just opened the door.

    Was he adopted by Lolo Soetero? Issues come later for Obama whether or not he was adopted by Lolo Soetero, and issues with Indonesian citizenship/college admissions etc… Barry Soetero may have used this to get foreign aid for college. He may have not legally changed his name back to Obama if he did to use real fathers name to get into college.

    I’m glad Obama gave in to the pressure to release a BC, time to keep up the pressure to get his college records, and medical records etc….or any records that the guy sealed.

    Alinskying him worked by using his own words of open/transparent against him.

    I’m glad this issue was forced out now by Trump rather than Obama stringing people along right up until before the election. His hand was forced so he had to take action now.

  7. I’ve never been the kind of person to make use of expletives in my speech, but when I first heard about the President’s response in this situation…well, I could have let a string of expletives loose that would have made a sailor blush. It was definitely one of those moments when you would love to look another human being dead in the eye and say to them, “This isn’t a game. Stop acting like a (insert your choice of expletives here).”

    Then, I started laughing because this situation is so rich in irony. For another person running for the highest office in this nation, someone who actually respects this country and has a genuine understanding of the responsibilities that are involved, the minute the question of birth had come up, they would have responded along the lines of “where do want me to send the copy?” Why? Because they were running for President of the United States and they didn’t want to start off with a shadow of doubt hanging over their character due to an insignificant issue that could be easily resolved.

    He says he is “amused”? Not a chance. If he’s deliberately held onto this long without making it public, then it is far more likely that it ticks him off to no end to have to comply with the law at this stage.

    Situations like this bring out the irony of the statement, “hoist in their own petard”.

  1. This won’t do anything to shut up true birthers, but it will go far shut up Trump about it, which I suspect, was a prime purpose.

    But as to that other group often libeled as being birthers, i.e., those who want to know what Obama has been hiding, it means nothing, and maybe even exacerbates it.

    For someone will ask what a state document, which belongs solely in a bureau of vital statistics or hall or records of Hawaii, in now in the hands of the birthee,…without a chain of custody. Hawaiian officials have long stated they couldn’t find this document, so what gives?

    That kind of stuff will keep the story alive.

  2. I can only hope you’re right Haystack. I’ve long thought that Obama keeps the birther stuff going in order to have a club to use against everyone who opposes him. “Look at the rubes! They even think I wasn’t really born where my birth certificate says I was born!” It’s a way to keep Rule 5 in play.

    • I with them complete success! Especially when they require that their candidate will endorse the Green party candidate when they get trounced by Obama.
      I really encourage this behaviour:
      “NPA seeks to break the stranglehold of the corrupted Democratic Party on the minds and voting behavior of the progressive electorate.”

      Priceless!

  3. “Over the last two and a half years, I have watched with amusement.” And played golf. And played basketball. And took vacations. And videotaped my NCAA bracket picks. And mocked people who ….work for the Cambridge Police Department; listen to talk radio; are afflicted with mental disorders; question by economic competence. And expended a quarter of a billion dollars worth of cruise missiles in a single afternoon. And taunted the Israeli people with cavalier expressions of my lack of concern for their security. Yes, I am easily amused.

  4. There is a portion of the population, our older adults, who see things pretty much in black and white. I doubt that they really will believe the authenticity of this document (doesn’t matter to me), because the issue represents to them the real concern about this man. In their eyes (and others) he is a foreigner, in manner, style, and character. He speaks in a voice that doesn’t resonate American, and acts in a way that is foreign to the average American. We know this is because he spent his childhood overseas, but many can’t wrap their minds around the fact that he should be president.

    That said, this didn’t really answer any questions, only raised more. But now, since it is much too early for Trump to be quieted, perhaps he’ll go on and demand a look see at the college transcripts, the passport he traveled on to Indonesia, and the selective service registration. Someone, somewhere is hiding the fact that this man, who they touted as godlike, is nothing more than an ordinary man who took the American people for a ride.

    • As one of “our older adults” I have long felt the passport is critical.
      About 30 seconds after this numb n*ts was elected I spent quite a bit of time reading everything Phillip J. Berg Esq. and everybody else had ever written about this subject and quite a bit of it was interesting, to say the least. Since nothing ever became of it, I have since allowed most of the details to go fallow in my mind, but the question of the passport always stayed with me. Go Trump!
      Then there is the question of just where did our infantile little community organizer get the 3 + million he has spent burying all this?
      If I remember correctly, FOX sent someone a while back to interview about 400 people who were at Columbia during the years he was allegedly there and no one remembered him from any classes or extra-curriculars etc. including Stephanopoulis.
      Lady P, in a post a while back you referenced his “handlers” and I most certainly believe they are there. Have you any insights/thoughts as to just whom they might be? Are we talking just Soros or do you think they go further and deeper than him… David Rockefeller anyone? I was reading books about him and those who at the time were referenced as “the gnomes of Zurich” back in the early 70’s.

      • John Brennan was the CEO of the company who breached Obama’s passport records during the campaign.

        John Brennan was a paid adviser to O’s campaign.

        John Brennan went on to become a security advisor to obama admin. He was considered for head of CIA but withdrew because that required a senate hearing/confirmation.

        The questions and investigation will continue on all aspects of Obama’s past. Why? because people are crazy? No, because he has sealed everything while saying he would have the most transparent admin ever. Everything must be investigated.

  5. Where’s the stamp? That piece of paper is more suited to finishing your morning business than it is to prove anything. The Army won’t accept a birth certificate that you provide, it has to come from the courthouse, with a stamp. Nor will a college or any other institution. But why should someone as low as We, the People deserve a stamped and true document of the Anointed One’s history? I don’t give two sh*ts where he was born but I’m thinking I’d like to know if he got grants for his as yet unused Ivy League education because he was a Kenyan or Venutian or some other crap. I just want to see more of his lies, in print, where he cannot escape them.

  6. Notice the timing of the BC release? Bernanke testimony and also shakeup of CIA chief, Sec Def change etc….

    I’m glad Trump forced the issue now, rather than Obama sitting on it until sometime right before the election. A win for Trump (even though I don’t trust the guy). If we get this stuff out of the way Obama will have to be accountable for issues.

    If Obama was adopted by Lolo Seoterro the original birth certificate is sealed and a new one is issued w/ the new fathers name. This is why the original original certificate was hard to come by because it was sealed. I wonder if they do that for any age child? Was Obama ever adopted? Where are those documents? Barry released the original original for some sleight of hand. This is only the beginning of the questions here and obama just opened the door.

    Was he adopted by Lolo Soetero? Issues come later for Obama whether or not he was adopted by Lolo Soetero, and issues with Indonesian citizenship/college admissions etc… Barry Soetero may have used this to get foreign aid for college. He may have not legally changed his name back to Obama if he did to use real fathers name to get into college.

    I’m glad Obama gave in to the pressure to release a BC, time to keep up the pressure to get his college records, and medical records etc….or any records that the guy sealed.

    Alinskying him worked by using his own words of open/transparent against him.

    I’m glad this issue was forced out now by Trump rather than Obama stringing people along right up until before the election. His hand was forced so he had to take action now.

  7. I’ve never been the kind of person to make use of expletives in my speech, but when I first heard about the President’s response in this situation…well, I could have let a string of expletives loose that would have made a sailor blush. It was definitely one of those moments when you would love to look another human being dead in the eye and say to them, “This isn’t a game. Stop acting like a (insert your choice of expletives here).”

    Then, I started laughing because this situation is so rich in irony. For another person running for the highest office in this nation, someone who actually respects this country and has a genuine understanding of the responsibilities that are involved, the minute the question of birth had come up, they would have responded along the lines of “where do want me to send the copy?” Why? Because they were running for President of the United States and they didn’t want to start off with a shadow of doubt hanging over their character due to an insignificant issue that could be easily resolved.

    He says he is “amused”? Not a chance. If he’s deliberately held onto this long without making it public, then it is far more likely that it ticks him off to no end to have to comply with the law at this stage.

    Situations like this bring out the irony of the statement, “hoist in their own petard”.

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