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Supreme Court: Protesting At Military Funerals Is Protected Speech.

Promoted from Dispatches by Erick*

The decision was 8-1. Justice Samuel Alito dissented.

Article at Fox News:

“Speech is powerful. It can stir people to action, move them to tears of both joy and sorrow, and — as it did here — inflict great pain,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in his majority opinion. “On the facts before us, we cannot react to that pain by punishing the speaker. As a nation we have chosen a different course — to protect even hurtful speech on public issues to ensure that we do not stifle public debate.”

“Our profound national commitment to free and open debate is not a license for the vicious verbal assault that occurred in this case,” Alito wrote. “In order to have a society in which public issues can be openly and vigorously debated, it is not necessary to allow the brutalization of innocent victims like petitioner. I therefore respectfully dissent.”

Ranting will serve no purpose.

This ruling doesn’t just apply to Westboro. It’s covering all military and maybe even civilian funerals and ceremonies.

Private cemeteries can protect families by suggesting or offering ‘invitation-only’ ceremonies and placing guards/security at property lines. It’s quite a nice tidy legal way of doing things.

Military cemeteries are public property, ‘owned’ by The US Government – meaning ‘We the people’ – and with this ruling are now required to let anyone and any group protest and/or pay respects to the fallen.

As a proud member of The Patriot Guard Riders – an organization founded to peacefully and silently counter the Westboro group – we only attend ceremonies when directly requested to do so.

Many times, families wish to be left in privacy and mourn a lost loved one / celebrate a homecoming by themselves. They are now full-on targets for anyone and any group of hateful, spiteful and even dangerously violent people.

Things are going to get ‘interesting’ at a minimum.

As a side note, many states, including here in Florida, have “stand your ground” laws and regulations that benefit law-abiding citizens. I’m wondering how many of these hateful, spiteful and even dangerously violent people are aware of that little fact.

God Bless America and those who gave all to keep her free. You and your families are protected by those of us who will always stand for you and The Flag.

Kenny Solomon
South Florida

Patriot Guard Riders
Standing for those who stood for us.

Cross-posted at Israel Survival Updates and The American Survival Guide.

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Kenny Solomonhttp://israelsurvivalupdates.com
I'm a typical bitter Eeeeevil Joooooooooooish God-clingin' flag-wavin' NASCAR-lovin', NRA-Certified Firearms Instructor, Oath Keeper and Patriot Guard Rider in South Florida ------ Tally-Ho Snackbar !™ and Reaganhu Akhbar !

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  1. Kenny, the ways in which you demonstrate your patriotism are almost unbounded. It surprises me not in the least that you would also be a member of the Patriot Guard Riders so that these brave men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice could receive their full measure of honor.

    These hate-filled, disgusting vermin make me want to wretch and remind me of something my dad used to say: “Just ’cause something may be legal, don’t make it right.”

    Thanks for service on behalf of these heroes of our country.

  2. I can’t really generate any great angst over this decision. It just puts the ball back in our court, common decency doesn’t need to be regulated by the government. You can learn common decency on television…

  3. Kenny- The Phelps are the most vile, disgusting, deplorable excuses for human beings. I despise them, however, the only surprise for me with the SC decicion was Alito’s dissention. If the decision had been otherwise, it would have put every citizen in the country on a slippery slope, and no one knows where it would end. I want to be able to publically call the current regime just what they are, nazi’s. I want to be able to say that Der Leader Obomba is purposely trying to destroy the greatest country on earth. I want to be able to talk out loudly and publically against every Lib. voted into office.

    The unfortunate result of the decision in Phelp’s favor is they will continue to be able to shake people down in order to keep them from peaceful good byes for loved ones. Fred Phelp’s learned well from his good friend Algore.

    The best part of your article Kenny is the fact that this will get more than just a little interesting. When I heard the decision on the radio this morning my first thought was- These people are going to wind up getting themselves killed. I am not hoping for that, but, when you lose a loved one your emotions are running very high. Someone somewhere is going to snap

    Thank you for being a part of the Patriot Guard Riders Kenny. You do your country proud. That’s the difference between conservatives and progressives.

  4. This decision was not unexpected, nor the margin. Alinksy would have cheered this decision for the same reasons some conservatives will. Opportunity. Those who want to do something about Westboro now know they have to go to Plan B.

  5. Watching these people demonstrate at a soldiers funeral really gets my dander up. It’s a repulsive act of free speech. One wonders what happened to common courtesy and respect for another in a moment of grief.

    With the video posted by nessa I have to wonder; WWJWD? (What would John Wayne do?) I concur.

  6. Check out Freedom Alliance’s response on this horrible, SCOTUS ruling.

    https://www.freedomalliance.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2763&Itemid=1

    Excerpted:

    “For most Americans, a funeral service is a religious event. It is a private affair, a solemn occasion, a family matter. The Court’s ruling wrongly elevates the right of free speech over the right to the free exercise of religion, and denies the family the opportunity to peacefully and privately say good-bye to their loved one before committing their soul to God.”

  7. So what exactly is a “stand your ground” law? If it means that when mouthy America-hating trolls disrupt the funeral of a patriot, and you walk across the street and punch them in the face as an expression of your unalienabke right to the pursuit of happiness, then I like it.

    • Clark,

      Stand Your Ground Laws are becoming more common. Basically they refute the laws in several blue States requiring people to run away rather than defend themselves or their property. Below is an explanation of the Florida Stand Your Ground Law. These are growing as fast as recent “Right to Carry” or Constitutional Carry” Laws.

      * It establishes that law-abiding residents and visitors may legally presume the threat of bodily harm or death from anyone who breaks into a residence or occupied vehicle and may use defensive force, including deadly force, against the intruder.

      * In any other place where a person “has a right to be,” that person has “no duty to retreat” if attacked and may “meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.”

      * In either case, a person using any force permitted by the law is immune from criminal prosecution or civil action and cannot be arrested unless a law enforcement agency determines there is probable cause that the force used was unlawful.

      * If a civil action is brought and the court finds the defendant to be immune based on the parameters of the law, the defendant will be awarded all costs of defense.

  1. Kenny, the ways in which you demonstrate your patriotism are almost unbounded. It surprises me not in the least that you would also be a member of the Patriot Guard Riders so that these brave men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice could receive their full measure of honor.

    These hate-filled, disgusting vermin make me want to wretch and remind me of something my dad used to say: “Just ’cause something may be legal, don’t make it right.”

    Thanks for service on behalf of these heroes of our country.

  2. I can’t really generate any great angst over this decision. It just puts the ball back in our court, common decency doesn’t need to be regulated by the government. You can learn common decency on television…

  3. Kenny- The Phelps are the most vile, disgusting, deplorable excuses for human beings. I despise them, however, the only surprise for me with the SC decicion was Alito’s dissention. If the decision had been otherwise, it would have put every citizen in the country on a slippery slope, and no one knows where it would end. I want to be able to publically call the current regime just what they are, nazi’s. I want to be able to say that Der Leader Obomba is purposely trying to destroy the greatest country on earth. I want to be able to talk out loudly and publically against every Lib. voted into office.

    The unfortunate result of the decision in Phelp’s favor is they will continue to be able to shake people down in order to keep them from peaceful good byes for loved ones. Fred Phelp’s learned well from his good friend Algore.

    The best part of your article Kenny is the fact that this will get more than just a little interesting. When I heard the decision on the radio this morning my first thought was- These people are going to wind up getting themselves killed. I am not hoping for that, but, when you lose a loved one your emotions are running very high. Someone somewhere is going to snap

    Thank you for being a part of the Patriot Guard Riders Kenny. You do your country proud. That’s the difference between conservatives and progressives.

  4. This decision was not unexpected, nor the margin. Alinksy would have cheered this decision for the same reasons some conservatives will. Opportunity. Those who want to do something about Westboro now know they have to go to Plan B.

  5. Watching these people demonstrate at a soldiers funeral really gets my dander up. It’s a repulsive act of free speech. One wonders what happened to common courtesy and respect for another in a moment of grief.

    With the video posted by nessa I have to wonder; WWJWD? (What would John Wayne do?) I concur.

  6. Check out Freedom Alliance’s response on this horrible, SCOTUS ruling.

    https://www.freedomalliance.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2763&Itemid=1

    Excerpted:

    “For most Americans, a funeral service is a religious event. It is a private affair, a solemn occasion, a family matter. The Court’s ruling wrongly elevates the right of free speech over the right to the free exercise of religion, and denies the family the opportunity to peacefully and privately say good-bye to their loved one before committing their soul to God.”

  7. So what exactly is a “stand your ground” law? If it means that when mouthy America-hating trolls disrupt the funeral of a patriot, and you walk across the street and punch them in the face as an expression of your unalienabke right to the pursuit of happiness, then I like it.

    • Clark,

      Stand Your Ground Laws are becoming more common. Basically they refute the laws in several blue States requiring people to run away rather than defend themselves or their property. Below is an explanation of the Florida Stand Your Ground Law. These are growing as fast as recent “Right to Carry” or Constitutional Carry” Laws.

      * It establishes that law-abiding residents and visitors may legally presume the threat of bodily harm or death from anyone who breaks into a residence or occupied vehicle and may use defensive force, including deadly force, against the intruder.

      * In any other place where a person “has a right to be,” that person has “no duty to retreat” if attacked and may “meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.”

      * In either case, a person using any force permitted by the law is immune from criminal prosecution or civil action and cannot be arrested unless a law enforcement agency determines there is probable cause that the force used was unlawful.

      * If a civil action is brought and the court finds the defendant to be immune based on the parameters of the law, the defendant will be awarded all costs of defense.

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